Calling all SL-1200/1210 owners!

[Marco]

Hi Chris,

Yes I noticed it. It's interesting that Arthur is now joining the D/D revolution.

We've had many chats in the past where he has (understandably, slightly grudgingly) acknowledged the superiority of direct-drive, when I told him over two years ago that I'd sold my LP12 and had planned to get a modified SL-1210, and so no longer intended to go down the Funk-modded LP12 route.

This, along with the continually growing promotion and popularity of the Techy on forums and in the media, has obviously rubbed off on him, so he wants a piece of the action, and good luck to him!

Like I've said before, mark my words, the day where modified 1200s and 1210s will be the defacto, almost automatic, choice for discerning audiophiles seeking high SPPV is growing ever nearer... The dominance of fatally flawed low-mass belt-drives are numbered and AOS will continue to play an influential role in their demise!

It’s high time the truth got out and the UK hi-fi industry, and the enthusiasts within it, broke free from the shackles of the blinkered dogma inflicted on it by the ‘flat earth’ mafia of the 70s and 80s!

Marco.

[Dave Cawley]

Hi Fi world have measured the Jelco SA-250ST on many turntables including the one I supplied on the Avid Diva, it's a very good low resonance arm with super bearings. You would need to change the stock arm cable and too. So changing the arm tube, adjusting the bearings and changing the cable, phew................. But then for the £700 list price (go look!) you can have the 750D and most of a new PSU to boot!!

But what this does show is how good the Technics really is, well done Marco! (and thank you)

Regards

Dave

[DSJR]

To be fair, haven't Technics made improvements to the pipe and internal wiring on recent versions? It wouldn't cost much for Technics to make some of these improvements in production, judging by the numbers of these they must still be selling..

I really need some dosh - ATC active 20 Pro's anyone?????????

[chris@panteg]

Dave
i do wonder if panasonic/technics have noticed this interest and various mods to the 1200 series ' perhaps they are bemused/baffled by it all ' maybe ' and to think at one time they were at the forefront of turntable/vinyl replay with the introduction of the SP10 mk3 especially .

I would love it if they anounced an SP10 mk4 or perhaps a reference 1200 mk7 why not ? i believe if any of the top jap audio companies put there minds too it ,
they could produce a turntable to compete with the very best.

I just don't think they can be arsed ( not much profit in it)

[Dave Cawley]

Hi Chris

Well Technics did do the SL-1200 MK4 and it even did 78rpm out of the box! Here is the manual




Technics absolutely ignore me. I approached them at Munich and spent 2 hours on the phone to their UK office. They simply do not care the tiniest bit. I believe Adam Smith whilst deputy editor of Hi Fi World had a similar experience. This is so very typical of the European offices of great Japanese companies, they work 9 - 5 and don't care.................

There are those of us and lets call him Guy that would in a heartbeat do the ultimate direct drive turntable, and we are edging closer with our experience with the SL-1200 and SP-10.

Regards



Dave

[chris@panteg]

Dave ' i am not surprised

But with what you are doing and Marco spreading the word ' does it matter ? i am looking forward to the bearing Mod especially , this is great stuff Dave .

[MartinT]

They simply do not care the tiniest bit

Dave, I find myself nodding in agreement but the problem may not be with the UK Technics/Panasonic guys. I worked for NEC for many years and there is a gulf between the regional office (mostly staffed with locals) and the Japanese HQ (almost 100% Japanese). They simply do not trust local offices and this results in great products sometimes dying a death due to inability to bring them to market, or (even more unforgivably), not supplying enough product against demand when the thing takes off. I was especially frustrated in the early days of Windows GDI laser printers when NEC had a superb product which could wipe the floor with HP. Could I get any decent stock of the things? History tells you who won that competition and why NEC are a faded company compared with their glory days of mobile phones and fax machines.

The only way you'll get what you want is to win over an enthusiastic senior Japanese manager. Then you'll see traction.

[Dave Cawley]

They simply do not trust local offices

For good reasons as explained above!! Such a shame.

Dave

[TONEPUB]

Well, even if they do, the percentage of audio enthusiasts to DJ's is probably so small, they wouldn't bother.

Too bad though.

I wish they'd bring the SP-10 back. That's the juice!

[Peter Stockwell]

They simply do not trust local offices and this results in great products sometimes dying a death due to inability to bring them to market, or (even more unforgivably), not supplying enough product against demand when the thing takes off.

I also get the impression from working, a little, with Nissan, that in a japanese organisation nobody is ready to risk a mistake!