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    Very silly question (perhaps not?)

    Regarding input sensitivity, might it be better to keep this fairly low and try to push more signal down the interconnects as long as impedances aren't screwed up in the process?

    I only ask as a mate in the recording industry couldn't understand all the audiophool foo regarding wires, although he did admit that the facility he worked at used 5V signal levels I understand (ok, balanced..) and this sort of level may help with cable type immunity.

    Apologies if this is a silly question, but I'd genuinely like to know if anyone has experimented with this sort of thing...

    P.S. Amp looks great so far. How much for the bits?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Wow respect is due. That looks amazing.

    When Steve(aquapiranha) visited me recently he was telling me all about the amazing Dac-Pre you made and which Ian Walker got as a replacement for a certain well like Japanese Dac S---. All I can say not having heard one of your designs is double WOW. That is testament indeed to how good you must be at building and designing. I look forward to your write up of this amp when finished.


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    Well four hours later and I now have the two copper cases prepared.
    Do I complete them tomorrow?



    As regards input sensitivity, I think I'll leave as simulated as I plan on feeding it with a Dac via passive pot. But yes you're right, if the amps were placed next to the speakers and long interconnects used I would re-evaluate.

    As for the cost, I haven't totaled the reciepts yet but I didn't want to scrimp on this amp.

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    Do I complete them tomorrow?
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    Neil,

    When Steve(aquapiranha) visited me recently he was telling me all about the amazing Dac-Pre you made and which Ian Walker got as a replacement for a certain well like Japanese Dac S---
    Ahem... Funnily enough, he's still got his Sony!

    No harm though I suppose in having two superb DACs at your disposal

    Dunc, I have a feeling that this amp could be special!

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    Lovely job of folding and cutting!... what do you use for that sort of thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tubehunter View Post
    Well four hours later and I now have the two copper cases prepared.
    Do I complete them tomorrow?



    As regards input sensitivity, I think I'll leave as simulated as I plan on feeding it with a Dac via passive pot. But yes you're right, if the amps were placed next to the speakers and long interconnects used I would re-evaluate.

    As for the cost, I haven't totaled the reciepts yet but I didn't want to scrimp on this amp.
    I think you have something very special; nice work
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    well all the hardware mounted ok.




    I use a homemade bending machine made out of heavy angle to fold the material and good quality holesaws, coping saw and files to cut the holes.
    Fairly hardwork but if your marking out's correct everything should fit.

    I can't wait to finish them off but I've got to get out on the bike.

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    Dunc, excuse me if I've missed this already, but are the valves you're going to use EL84s?

    I think Ian made a mistake when he mentioned 'KT84s' to me (I'm not sure there's such a valve), and certainly the valves bases on your amps would not fit a large 'KT'-type valve

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Yep EL84 PP Marco-see the first post of the thread.Should be a nice musical amp.I like the EL84.

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