Alternative platters ?

[Macca]

How often d folk with a machine clean their records?

I find you only need to do them the once. It's the crud buried in the groove that needs cleaning out, not the traces of visible dust on the surface. Once the grooves are clean and it goes back in a new inner sleeve then it will stay clean unless you spill something on it.

[MartinT]

Just once, if you clean them effectively and put them into a good anti-static inner sleeve like the Nagaoka ones. Your LPs will never show any static again.

[Ali Tait]

Cool, thanks chaps.

[MCRU]

ETP Platter up-date for all concerned

The platters are being sent out in the order a request for one was received as that seems the fairest way

Martin T was first

Marco was second

Neil was 3rd (I actually asked Neil if he wanted one for review after the first 2 had asked)

One of my customers was 4th

Martins has arrived and sent, Marcos will be here this week (based on the length of time the previous platter took) and hopefully Neils as well, all platters are being shipped individually at my request for weight purposes (freight costs are very high above 3kg per parcel)

If anyone else would like a platter please pm me and I will add to the current order I have placed.

[MartinT]

Thanks, David. Looking forward to trying it out.

[Marco]

Excellent, Dav-eed! I look forward to having a play and to reading about Martin's impressions of the platter

Marco.

[MCRU]

Having spent 20+ years selling engineering plastics (still in it now) I have a gut feeling the ETP platter will perform exceedingly well due to the material Mike has chosen.

[MartinT]

My first thoughts on the Mike New ETP platter here.

[Oldpinkman]

My first thoughts on the Mike New ETP platter here.

Although we have been discussing the platters on your other thread, I really thought I should move it back here - since strokes of genius should really be about the ETP you are reviewing rather than a discussion of the more general issues concerning Technics platters and in particular whether mass or moment of inertia are relevant.

I am slightly frustrated since I would like to make comments about how the 2 platter technologies sound, rather than just the masses - but promised Arthur I would say nothing about strata v acrylic until Neil (Dalek Supreme) has had a chance to publish whatever he wanted to say. So I'm not saying anything about how I think they sound. (And I haven't yet made up my mind about the Pink Triangle mods definitively)

Aside from the issue about the motor, its servo's and the load placed on them, and the fact that Funk 2 prototype and Mike New's ETP weigh the same (2.2Kg and 2.3Kg) and if I could do the sums to work out the distribution of mass I am sure would have near identical rotational momentum, and so "warble" should be the same for both, you seem to believe (from your comments to Arthur) that the "strata" is glass. Clearly you didn't rap it with your knuckles. Strata is glass like ETP is plastic and aerolam is aluminium. I am led to believe there is more to it than what the component materials are when it comes to modern composite material structures. And which properties of those structures are important in providing a support for a cartridge (or material for an arm tube). Certainly if you rap the materials hung from a wire with your knuckles even a non-tech like me can identify how different they are.

But back on topic, regarding mass and rotational momentum, in the absence of some hard facts or measurements to show that ETP and Funk 2 (strata) are different in that regard, I am going to accept the obvious conclusion that they are not (they appear near identical) and ignore warble in any auditioning I do. I realise it is my limitation that I can't hear cable burn-in or UBER mains cables, but I think the reason I can't hear warble on a 2.2Kg Technics platter is because there is none!

[MartinT]

It's your conclusion, Richard, and you have every right to it! By all means ignore the warble for now and just do some listening (it may be solely the sensor cog that was causing my problems, in which case I'm happy to retract all notion that mass/momentum was responsible). As for the material the Strata is made from, I only knew what I knew and it felt like glass.