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    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


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    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Is my Croft enjoying his holiday round your house
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    OK for my two penn'orth here goes. We have two 1210s (got the second this week) we use them for dubbing vinyl direct to video and having finished the Composer-1 once I've done the GL78 I'll be doing our Techies soon. Bearing and power supplies first and then probably platters but maybe just mats. I'm looking at all the options the MN bearing is on my list and I want to audition it. To be honest I'll listen to everything I can, but I find this almost evangelical relentless plugging of all things Funk really off putting. It's a platter FFS not the Holy Grail, the tone arms are just that, not relics of a mediaeval saint. Mike, sorry but you have to take it on the chin, if you invent a better mouse trap, others will always try and improve it.

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    “Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel. Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio”

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    "Mike, sorry but you have to take it on the chin, if you invent a better mouse trap, others will always try and improve it."
    I guess you are right, perhaps someone will put me up for an OBB for services to the SL experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    OK for my two penn'orth here goes.
    …To be honest I'll listen to everything I can, but I find this almost evangelical relentless plugging of all things Funk really off putting. It's a platter FFS not the Holy Grail, the tone arms are just that, not relics of a mediaeval saint…

    Best regards
    …and for my two penn'orth:
    Paul, thank you for your post. it is appreciated for this is not one sided. you think it’s off putting?
    Have any of you, for a second, stopped to think what’s it like for me watching on the sidelines? – That really is all I’m doing, watching, trust me.
    The number of times I could have jumped in but Marco knows I refuse to get involved when mud starts. I really regret all this ballyhoo. Correction. I HATE it. Oh well, what are door mats for?
    This week has been very depressing and I do mean depressing – a certain sage member can attest to that but I won’t drag him in. (aren’t PMs great?)

    I agree. It is just a platter and an arm and a bearing and… good as they may be (or not). The long and the short is that someone up there has given me a certain skill set. I either use it to make better product or sit at home kitting. One gives serious grief. Clue: It’s not pearl one, drop one.
    Why do it? When I succeed, others enjoy things they didn’t previously have…and the buzz knowing that is pretty darned good.
    After all my efforts you might still prefer something else (as stated by members) but at least you have a choice and that is a good thing…unless you want to go back to the good old days of “sell you speakers, divorce your granny but get an LP12”

    Having said that, things there haven’t changed much there, either, only the names have changed…ah, plus ca change.

    Bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    Is my Croft enjoying his holiday round your house
    Yes, when is the multi component shootout gonna take place?
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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    Chill Arthur. Walk the dog. You know what they say - "Those that can do - those that can't talk about it"

    Paul has a degree, and audio industry experience, and TWO technics SL1200's. If you got shot of 3 or 4 of yours you might wise up

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    OK for my two penn'orth here goes. the tone arms are just that, not relics of a mediaeval saint.
    Arthur - you old rascal - you've had me over again! That graph of your "non-tone arm" - you little tinker. HiFi World! You did it with a crayoning set!




    Paul knows you know. The Pip's no good either, and has been bettered by countless others Paul knows. I told Owen at the weekend and you can imagine how distraught he was. If it hadn't been for the storm damage to his house on Monday, he'd probably still be laughing now. I wonder if he realises Paul is in "pro-audio" and doubtless could do better than the AHB2 too.

    Oh to have talent, and a few patents...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    OK for my two penn'orth here goes. We have two 1210s (got the second this week) we use them for dubbing vinyl direct to video and having finished the Composer-1 once I've done the GL78 I'll be doing our Techies soon. Bearing and power supplies first and then probably platters but maybe just mats. I'm looking at all the options the MN bearing is on my list and I want to audition it. To be honest I'll listen to everything I can, but I find this almost evangelical relentless plugging of all things Funk really off putting. It's a platter FFS not the Holy Grail, the tone arms are just that, not relics of a mediaeval saint.
    Hi Paul,

    Nice chatting the other day, mate. We do have quite a lot in common, in terms of our audio proclivities, and it was fascinating hearing all about your involvement in the recording industry, within studios, and the knowledge you have gained from that (mucho respect)

    With regard to the apparent 'Funk/PT mania' that exists (and here you are no doubt referring largely to Richard's input), I understand where you're coming from. He does become somewhat fixated at times with all things Funk, as indeed a glance at his posts to date here shows.

    However... One could argue that Richard's Funk/PT 'obsession' is no greater than the (modified) Technics T/T 'obsession' which exists here, and so it would be rather hypocritical to criticise or exclude one without the other. The reality, of course, is that either 'obsession' is nothing of the sort and simply an expression of how passionate the respective fans are of recommending to others what they believe works

    In that respect, I would say that his passion for all things Funk/PT is justified.

    Furthermore, as this thread is about a new platter being released for the Technics, from the Funk Firm, it would be somewhat churlish not to expect discussion related to that (and references to PT) appearing occasionally... In any case, I'm cool with it, and whilst I acknowledge your concerns, I hope that you can also see where I'm coming from

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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