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  1. #81
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    I'm Arthur.

    Default The New Funk Platter

    With the launch of Flamenca / F6 in Denver and SL1200 mk II and factor in the season has kicked in pretty hard, explains my being off forum.
    We got a call yesterday from someone, who chose not to introduce themselves asking after the platter.
    We have been led to believe from a single individual that the platter does not fit the Mike New bearing…which as Mike has pointed out makes little sense. This is further supported by the many users of Funk’s mk I platter which is no different as regards fit to our mk II.
    Still, in the interest of being honest, we replied that as we don’t have one, we replied there might be an issue for Mike New bearings. I won’t say any more but
    this post is to thank Richard who has been working hard to prevent mis-information and similarly to Mike New, who has stepped in to clarify various points.

    Despite no info from Funk on the new platter to date on the website we find ourselves in the embarrassing position of being out of stock and as I’m pushed for time right now, I’m leaving it to Richard to post a couple of photos.

    You’ll see that it is quite different from the original. It is a complex assembly of a hub and an outer “platter” that has Achromat bonded to it.
    The end result is technically quite impressive. For more info, please visit the website tomorrow as at long last it is being updated overnight.

    Arthur

  2. #82
    Join Date: Apr 2013

    Location: Granes - Haut Vallee de l'aude - EU

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    I'm Richard.

    Default Your bloody round Arthur!

    OK
    AK has asked me to post his pictures cos he doesn't have photobucket. I should note that in addition to "project pimp PT" and getting the boards out of the Integral so Owen can fix them for me, ITS YOUR BLOODY ROUND when I am down in Sussex next

    New Funk platter - the arm is the FX2 prototype I borrowed - NOT a production version. The anti-skate is on the wrong side, making it tricky to use on a techie and REALLY scary on a bouncy like my Pink Triangle


    [IMG][/IMG]


    And again - different angle - same machine


    [IMG][/IMG]


    While we're on the subject, since you are shamelessly flaunting that Technics cartridge Arthur, do you have a spare body, cos I might be able to get a stylus assembly???


    And finally - the new platter hub. As you will note Mike this is machined from metal, so you shouldn't get the acrylic issues you referred to with this one.


    [IMG][/IMG]



    Hopefully this won't have spoilt your planned review Neil, but improved it by correcting some mistaken assumptions. And Dave, given the radical differences in materials and approach, just buying a Mike New platter instead is not really an answer. Mike has made it clear, as an excellent engineer, that he is happy for his products to compete on the strength of their design and engineering qualities, and not restrictive trade practices - which is what I would have expected of a good engineer.

    Phew - back to the beans

  3. #83
    Join Date: Nov 2010

    Location: Huddersfield

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    I'm David.

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    Since this seems to have developed into a sales thread for the funk platter, the mike new platter will soon be for sale at MCRU

    MN bearing/MN platter, a match made in australia

  4. #84
    MartinT Guest

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    Arthur & Richard - looks very nice. Is the 'Pimp My Deck' lettering on the outer rim optional? As I said, I'll test the hub out for you as soon as I receive it.

    Regarding the Funk Mk. I platter, I remember Mike New's advice to use a little Vaseline on the spindle. Since then, I've never had trouble removing the platter when I've so needed.

  5. #85
    Join Date: Nov 2008

    Location: North Down /Northern Ireland/ UK

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    I'm Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldpinkman View Post
    OK
    AK has asked me to post his pictures cos he doesn't have photobucket. I should note that in addition to "project pimp PT" and getting the boards out of the Integral so Owen can fix them for me, ITS YOUR BLOODY ROUND when I am down in Sussex next

    New Funk platter - the arm is the FX2 prototype I borrowed - NOT a production version. The anti-skate is on the wrong side, making it tricky to use on a techie and REALLY scary on a bouncy like my Pink Triangle


    [IMG][/IMG]


    And again - different angle - same machine


    [IMG][/IMG]


    While we're on the subject, since you are shamelessly flaunting that Technics cartridge Arthur, do you have a spare body, cos I might be able to get a stylus assembly???


    And finally - the new platter hub. As you will note Mike this is machined from metal, so you shouldn't get the acrylic issues you referred to with this one.


    [IMG][/IMG]



    Hopefully this won't have spoilt your planned review Neil, but improved it by correcting some mistaken assumptions. And Dave, given the radical differences in materials and approach, just buying a Mike New platter instead is not really an answer. Mike has made it clear, as an excellent engineer, that he is happy for his products to compete on the strength of their design and engineering qualities, and not restrictive trade practices - which is what I would have expected of a good engineer.

    Phew - back to the beans
    Certainly no mistakes or assumptions on my part. I reported the problem/issue/incompatibility to Arthur as soon as I discovered it. I have a Mike New bearing no doubt identical to Martin's and anyone else's and the Funk Mk2 inner hub platter does not seat to it properly, there is a very pounced and unacceptable movement /rock. Using grease or Vaseline does not change that one bit as I tried that. The Funk MK2 fits an original Technics bearing with no issue and I have several here including a Vantage audio modified one.

    I think it a shame this information was revealed in the way it was to a member of the public then reported here on AOS and not dealt with privately by Funk originally -before telling Audio Al.- by asking for the platter back and I would have been quite happy to send my Mike New bearing to Funk as well so they could see for themselves.

    I am at the minute left sitting here feeling my integrity is being challenged re what I have honestly reported in private to Funk and I am not happy at the way it has been dealt with so far in the public domain.

    I stand by my comments both in private to Arthur and here on AOS.

    Neil
    Regards Neil

  6. #86
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    I'm Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Certainly no mistakes or assumptions on my part.

    Neil
    Neil

    I won't repost the pictures, or poor Dave will have a fit! I am sure no malice was intended by anybody, and Mike and Arthur will be grateful that they have been made aware of the issue and are in a position to cooperate to resolve it if necessary for the benefit of all Technics owners as a whole. Whilst as a Pink Triangle owner I am completely indifferent to it, I am sure the Technics owners look forward to your "uber" review no less eagerly than before, and I trust it will be a valuable addition to the Techipedia.

    Best wishes

    Richard

  7. #87
    Join Date: Nov 2010

    Location: Huddersfield

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    I'm David.

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    We are talking about maybe at a guess 0.00000000000000002% of the world population being concerned, thats possibly 20 people out of over 6 billion, I am not one of them.

    Neil chill out you are a nice guy (well I think so anyway) and I like your site and your reviews too.

  8. #88
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Arthur & Richard - looks very nice. Is the 'Pimp My Deck' lettering on the outer rim optional?
    +1.

    Looks like the size of the platter has been enlarged a little, perhaps to maximise the 'flywheel effect' - or is it just an optical illision? I agree with you, if I was to have one, it would need to be minus the 'go-faster lettering'. Anyway, I await your findings with interest!

    Good fun this Techy pimping malarkey, innit?

    Marco.

    P.S Out of interest, is the new platter heavier, lighter or the same weight as the old one?
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #89
    Join Date: Nov 2010

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    I'm David.

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    Maybe you can have your name put on? What would marco super dafteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee look like spinning at 33rpm I wonder?

  10. #90
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    AWESOME!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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