On-Topic Photographs - How?? (...please)

**The Vinyl Adventure** · 03-06-2009, 09:10

Originally Posted by Haselsh1

Regarding the taking of stunning Hi-Fi photographs... it is not in the camera... it is in your head. The only thing restricting you is your own imagination.

this is precicely my point, its just the other half of the same sentance

"any camera can take a good photo....its not in the camera...its in your head........."

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i prefer lightroom for image manipulation i find photoshop a little ott in its functionality
lightrooms white balance control is excelent notonly does it shift from cool red to hot blue, it also has a magenta/green bais (?)
i shoot in raw and then adjust to eye on my photo monitor (apart from when technical perfection is required) and im always happy with the results and have not had any complaints from customers.....

**Haselsh1** · 03-06-2009, 09:49

Originally Posted by hamish_gill

i prefer lightroom for image manipulation i find photoshop a little ott in its functionality
lightrooms white balance control is excelent notonly does it shift from cool red to hot blue, it also has a magenta/green bais (?)
i shoot in raw and then adjust to eye on my photo monitor (apart from when technical perfection is required) and im always happy with the results and have not had any complaints from customers.....

I know of a few photographers who prefer Adobe Lightroom for image manipulation but personally I prefer Photoshop CS2 as it handles layers much better. I have not tried CS3 with its better working of black and white as it's much cheaper to buy plug ins for CS2 and ones like Silver Efex do a much better job than CS3.

It's nice to find fellow photographers on here. Photographers with a true passion and very rare.

**The Vinyl Adventure** · 03-06-2009, 10:27

passion... thats what i keep saying it is! my fiancee insists it is more of an obsesion...
its a very interesting peice of softwear lightroom! i makes workflow of multiple images very easy. and still retains the non-destructive edit proccess of editing a duplicate background. its main issue is not being able to apply multiple layers of the same function such as sharpening withoutout extra plugins (expensive!!) still, when required output to any photoediting program is possible if reqired!

on a different note altogether i have had a good look at your site and notice a shot i like of a boat taken with delta 3200, perhaps you could advise on how to get such a fine grain out of it.
i currently use ilfosol s (or 3 cant remember without checking)rapid fix and ilfostop and just follow the timing instructions on the bottles. im self tought and dont really know where these days to find reliable info on chemical photography these days.
with your background you seem the ideal candidate to help!

**Haselsh1** · 03-06-2009, 10:39

Originally Posted by hamish_gill

on a different note altogether i have had a good look at your site and notice a shot i like of a boat taken with delta 3200, perhaps you could advise on how to get such a fine grain out of it.
i currently use ilfosol s (or 3 cant remember without checking)rapid fix and ilfostop and just follow the timing instructions on the bottles. im self tought and dont really know where these days to find reliable info on chemical photography these days.
with your background you seem the ideal candidate to help!

Hmmm... I'll do my best.

One of the problems with a very fast film is highly excessive contrast. This is can be cured. Another problem is excessive grain. This can be minimised.

If you take a developer such as Ilford ID11 which is a powder and dissolve the contents to make a stock solution you can further dilute this solution to make a very dilute developer. This will do both of the things you want to do. My suggestion would be to use ID11 at 1+3 as this will make for quite fine grain but will also lower the contrast.

If anyone out there is not sure about 1+3, add the two together to make 4 and divide your required quantity of solution by 4. So, if you need 300mls of developer then you need 75mls of stock solution.

I am way impressed that folk still use film and do it the proper way. I adore film over digital just in the same way I adore vinyl.

I do hope this isn't too patronising

**Haselsh1** · 03-06-2009, 10:45

Check out:

www.digitaltruth.com

You need the massive developer chart which has loads of info for developers and times.

**Haselsh1** · 03-06-2009, 10:47

Check out:

www.silverprint.co.uk

This is heaven for real photography

**The Vinyl Adventure** · 03-06-2009, 13:10

execelent, cheers! a supplier of the chemicals too.. v usefull! i shall let you know how i get on!

**Haselsh1** · 03-06-2009, 16:11

There is absolutely no point whatsoever keeping information to yourself merely to boost one's own ego. All that happens is that you die and it all gets forgotten. Pass it on...!!!

**The Vinyl Adventure** · 03-06-2009, 20:52

thats one of the reasons i still do a day a week in the shop i love trying to answer peoples querrys about photography and hifi....

**DaveK** · 03-06-2009, 21:59

Hi Guys,
This thread is largely a 2 person exchange, and none the worse for that. Please don't go PM on this, I for one am enjoying it and learning - great, and thanks. I have an interest in photography, my interest may come close to yours but my talents in this area certainly don't - congratulations to you both, and keep on swapping info.

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