NVA interconnects

[AlanS]

I have never broken an IC, that includes SSP.

Those who have........

[Ninanina]

Ok I will say it like it is::::

I love the sound quality of both the SSP's and the lesser SP's...... BUT I have had breakages on BOTH cables

Don't get me wrong they sound superb but I have got rid of both because of breakages....they are VERY delicate in my opinion and I look after my gear VERY carefully...

I believe that the NVA Sound Cord's are much more flexible and don't break in the same way as SP's or SSP's

I have a friend, who I gave a set of SSP's as a Chirstmas present, and he is also having problems with them, and is going to replace them with something a bit more solid in construction

If you want a good cable that won't break then I'd recommend Mark Grants IC's

[Andrew B]

I think it also depends on how often you chop and change. My setup has changed regularly for years, so I'm always plugging, n plugging and moving stuff. I also undo everything to dust, so that's a lot of usage. I try to use locking phonos now because that minimises the problem. There is a lot of variability in tightness of plugs and indeed the relative size of sockets. Then you have to deal with poorly constructed separates where the phono sockets flex on a poorly secured PCB if you apply any pressure. RCAs in general seem a poor choice to me.

[Figlet108]

...It's just a pity that people not only feel the need to try and put others off great value (and bloody good) products, but they also deprive themselves of them too, all because they don't like the maker...

Thing is Andrew, that's just not true and not at all what's going on here.

There's at least 3 people contributing to this thread that have fallen out with RD and are on the Black List and have had VERY NASTY THINGS SAID ABOUT THEM PUBLICLY, and yet they have ALL repeatedly said that the products sound good and are good value. They also all still own NVA gear and in some cases own a lot of NVA gear. No one is trying to put anyone off. I am genuinely blown away by the negative forces that have turned a perfectly reasonable set pros and cons for a product from real users' experiences into the abomination that this has turned into.

Instead, let me give you a real example of people cutting off their nose to spite their face: after falling out with RD and despite everything, I said publicly that I would still support his TFS. However, even though we all know how much he liked it, with plenty of public statements in plenty of threads, he still sold it. And he made a big public spectacle of it too along with plenty of insults and abuse.
And what really takes the biscuit Andrew is that not a few short months before he (and the rest of his Hate Mafia) RIPPED BEV APART FOR DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Breathtaking hypocrisy...

[Marco]

As an aside, I really don't like those new Profis. They look and feel about one third as nice as the old ones. Not worth the money now IMO.

The Neutriks are ok, but given what I've heard, after experimenting extensively with different RCA plugs (which I agree with Barry are a heavily compromised design), for me the best of a bad bunch are (for digital applications), WBT NextGen-0110Ag, and (for analogue applications) Eichmann Silver Bullet plugs.

They're not cheap, but having tested them against other plugs (on the same cables), they do offer significant sonic improvements, and not simply because the conductors are pure silver. One of the most important aspects I've discovered of good plug design (for audio purposes) is not to use ferrous [magnetic] metals (and/or the least amount of metal anywhere) in their construction, other than in the conductor itself.

It's no coincidence that the continually worst 'sounding' plugs I discovered were the heaviest ones, simply because they contained the most metal!

Marco.

[Ninanina]

Be VERY careful with what some NVA supporters are/have said... one of these people has apparently been giving me a hard time on HFS, along the line of attaching me to a "Witches broom stick" , a very sad person indeed... I will let you decide who that may be... how sad can you get a ??

I've said all I will say on the subject of NVA interconnects...it is true and a honest opinion of how I have found them

[Ninanina]

RIPPED BEV APART FOR DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

My point EXACTLY....

[icehockeyboy]

Shall I add my full experience of the Sound Pipes I bought, and the surrounding circumstances ....? Oh go on then.

I was caught up in the then hype about how great these cables were,,and having recently bought some Sound Cords. I thought I'd have a punt.

In all honesty I struggled to hear an improvement, and mentioned this on an another hi fi forum, which is when I had the Pm from RD, throwing four letter words at me like they were going out of fashion.

I had by then sold them on to another forum member, who was also disappointed at how they sounded, this I passed on to RD, who said they must be broken, and he actually asked me to get the new owner to send them back for repair, which he did.

He claimed that he had repaired them, and sent them back to their new owner, who in fact said he could hear no improvement at all, and in the meantime RD laid into me via PM about how I obviously had defective hearing, and how dare I post my ( honest) findings on a forum when I obviously didn't have a clue about Hifi.

I'm not just jumping on the " kick RD " bandwagon, just telling my story about my experience with NVA.

PS, just had a peep at their forum, boy oh boy, they don't like us there do they!

PPS, note I'm still using my Sound Cords! (Again)

[Ninanina]

Shall I add my full experience of the Sound Pipes I bought, and the surrounding circumstances ....? Oh go on then.

I was caught up in the then hype about how great these cables were,,and having recently bought some Sound Cords. I thought I'd have a punt.

In all honesty I struggled to hear an improvement, and mentioned this on an another hi fi forum, which is when I had the Pm from RD, throwing four letter words at me like they were going out of fashion.

I had by then sold them on to another forum member, who was also disappointed at how they sounded, this I passed on to RD, who said they must be broken, and he actually asked me to get the new owner to send them back for repair, which he did.

He claimed that he had repaired them, and sent them back to their new owner, who in fact said he could hear no improvement at all, and in the meantime RD laid into me via PM about how I obviously had defective hearing, and how dare I post my ( honest) findings on a forum when I obviously didn't have a clue about Hifi.

I'm not just jumping on the " kick RD " bandwagon, just telling my story about my experience with NVA.

PS, just had a peep at their forum, boy oh boy, they don't like us there do they!

Craig that sounds just about right for RD.... I didn't want to comment on this issue but now I have I may as well continue...

RD just makes enemies all over the place if you DARE to comment on his gear, be it his amplifiers or his cables... He is just a sad little old man and cannot stand ANYONE stating that they do not like, or can fault his gear...... Just have NOTHING to do with him, like I do now, it's the best way... believe me!!!

Quite a sad little man who is best left well alone ...... !!

[Andrew B]

Thing is Andrew, that's just not true and not at all what's going on here.

There's at least 3 people contributing to this thread that have fallen out with RD and are on the Black List and have had VERY NASTY THINGS SAID ABOUT THEM PUBLICLY, and yet they have ALL repeatedly said that the products sound good and are good value. They also all still own NVA gear and in some cases own a lot of NVA gear. No one is trying to put anyone off. I am genuinely blown away by the negative forces that have turned a perfectly reasonable set pros and cons for a product from real users' experiences into the abomination that this has turned into.

Instead, let me give you a real example of people cutting off their nose to spite their face: after falling out with RD and despite everything, I said publicly that I would still support his TFS. However, even though we all know how much he liked it, with plenty of public statements in plenty of threads, he still sold it. And he made a big public spectacle of it too along with plenty of insults and abuse.
And what really takes the biscuit Andrew is that not a few short months before he (and the rest of his Hate Mafia) RIPPED BEV APART FOR DOING EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

Breathtaking hypocrisy...

Hi Jason. Despite saying my comments aren't true, I think you actually seem to agree with me in your references to the thread becoming an abomination.

As far as I know, you still use NVA gear extensively but some here wouldn't use his products however good they sounded and have said so. I just can't see the logic in that. I recognise the fact that you have praised the sound and in that you've been consistent.

One thing that did still puzzle me though (and this might be my memory, so please correct me if I'm wrong) but didn't you say that using Profi plugs as standard would have solved any breakage issues on SSP? It was around the time of the issues on HFS and I honestly can't remember if it was before or after (and I've not looked for it).

I thought you'd pushed for it to be done this way just before leaving. Like I said, my memory isn't 100 percent.