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Mike's apparently "gorn orf". I was going to say many people don't realise that an iPod is only a device to carry away a "portion" of your music collection, for portable consumption. It is not a hifi source as such.
An iPod got it's tunes from the computer which holds the music in a digital library.
There is no difference in storing your music this way, or on a compact disc.
Other than of course the computer can be used to replay the music, thus making CD players totally redundant .
They sound better than cdp's too.
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Oh, You're back. The posts crossed.
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What have gas ovens with leaks got to do with iPods, or is that just a friendly riposte ?
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Jeeeesus!! this is about as much fun as having crabs take over your testicles.
I know what I would like to do with his ipod port![]()
Richard.
Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi
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The simple and depressing fact (for Hi Fi Luddites/flat earthers or whatever they are know as) is that iPods are probably the only thing keeping what's left of hi fi alive - even Krell have bought out an iPod Dock and B & W's Zeppelin is Sevenoaks best seller!
Ipods and some Apple computers compare favourably with some very expensive CD players, which is one reason why nearly 120 million iPods have sold, however many prefer to ditch it and unite the computer, the TV and the Hi Fi. They use iTunes instead and it's User Interface is much better. CD mech production has almost ceased and CD players will not be made much longer, so it's not surprising that they are being replaced by computers.
Last edited by Ashley James; 17-03-2008 at 18:12.
Not wishing to side with anyone here, but as I discussed with Gromit earlier in another thread, there's never been as many quality turntables, tonearms, cartridges and phono stages available as there is now, even in the heyday of the 70s and 80s, and at affordable prices.
That wouldn't be the case if the hi-end 2-channel hi-fi industry (and that's all I'm interested in) was in as bad a state as Ashley makes out...
Ipods are great things - when used in the right context. I certainly wouldn't swap my Sony X777ES/DAS-R1 or my KAB-modified Technics SL-1210 for one though!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Marco I'm sure you're right and equally sure it's in a declining market. In truth, beyond figures that are easy to find like the amount of business done by the big players, it's hard to know how much is selling. What is true is that most suppliers we deal with tell us that they get very little of their business from UK hi fi companies now, but that could be because everyone's buying from China. Everyone seems to say things have been bad for a couple of years or so but I've no idea for who, all I see is steady contraction of whole Industry.
And just as you can old valve radios (Mart has a huge collection and even uses WWII transeivers for Ham radio) or gas lights, so you'll always be able to buy old audio gear as favoured on this and other Forums.