Choosing the 'best' turntable and ignoring 'flavours'

[sc_ita]

Modifying the Techy seems a funny long mountain path.
I often wonder why high quality direct drive TT seem to be somewhat as a private "Japan affair". For example:
http://denon.jp/products2/dp1300mk2.html
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/marantz/tt8001.shtml
It seems they are the only two DD realistic alternative to the SL1210M5G. Has anyone experience of one of these machines?
Bye,
Siro.

[Haselsh1]

Peter, does that mean you're a veggie...??? I feel another thread coming on...!

I agree with everything that's been said so far, positive and negative about the Technics. I'd like to know why, if the machine is intended to be a final product, everyone then feels the need to rip it to pieces and 'improve' it. I have very limited experience with this deck but I do have experience and I apologise to all now. I thought it was constructed of plastic as it certainly feels that way. There is nothing about that deck that feels anything like a Nottingham Analogue Interspace for instance but I do appreciate that the NA is twice the price. I still also realise that it is a DJ deck and was and is intended for that purpose. I realise that it is very probably the ultimate DJ deck but that doesn't necessarily make it Hi-Fi.

Do I want one...??? I want a nicely engineered Hi-Fi turntable that I can assemble when it arrives and then enjoy. I do not want to have to spend 500 quid on something that I then have to spend another 200 on just to make it Hi-Fi. Fortunately, I have plenty of time.

[griffo104]

Too much Brown sauce and everything tastes the same. Haven't had a bacon buttie in years .

The Crap DJ decks didn't start life as DJ decks their origins are as hifi decks. My current deck (SL1210/KAB psu/SME IV/AT33 PTG/Clearaudio nano) is the most versatile I've ever had in terms of what it can playback.

Funnily enough I think the exact same way about my Orbe.

I don't believe any deck/system is neutral, if so then I would hear what I hear at concerts and I don't and never have heard that from a hifi.

I would much rather have an olde worlde LP12 that put a smile on my face and made me want to do nothing but listen to music - flovoured but in a very nice way.

You could put 10 od us in a room and ask us to come up with something accurate and neutral and you would get 10 different answers. It's the reason why some guitarists prefer and Gibson to Fender - cos it sounds better to them. It's flavoured to their taste.

[Marco]

I'm not convinced a Technics DJ deck, modified or otherwise, give you the full flavour as originally intended.

I'll duck for cover right now

Griffo, the answer is simple: name a date and time and I'll being mine down to yours and you'll find out!

Plus it would be a good excuse to meet and have a few



Marco.

[Marco]

The Crap DJ decks didn't start life as DJ decks their origins are as hifi decks.

Indeed, Peter! This FACT seems to be getting missed, or perhaps deliberately ignored

Shaun (and also Griffo),

I'll come back to you later - bit busy right now, and Shaun you still haven't added your first name to your signature!

Laters,
Marco.

[Peter Stockwell]

Veggie, Me ? I did have a salad for lunch today ...

The Mitchells and the Nottingham Analogues are surely great TTs, I don't know from own experience, I've never heard either. I don't like belt drive and believe the LP12 to be about the most overrated TT that ever was built. But I like marmite, bitter orange marmalade, citron confit and hate cucumber. So what would I know.

[Spectral Morn]

Modifying the Techy seems a funny long mountain path.
I often wonder why high quality direct drive TT seem to be somewhat as a private "Japan affair". For example:
http://denon.jp/products2/dp1300mk2.html
http://www.vinylengine.com/library/marantz/tt8001.shtml
It seems they are the only two DD realistic alternative to the SL1210M5G. Has anyone experience of one of these machines?
Bye,
Siro.

Hi Guys

The link to the vinylengine site will not work if linked direct from AOS (this page). Please take the link (copy and then paste) and use your search engine from outside AOS.


Sorry for the hassle.


Regards D S D L

[Spectral Morn]

I think that anything that has been designed for and can survive the world of DJing can make an excellent basis for tweaking. Thus the Technics is a good choice for that reason alone. However, and I haven't heard one modified or not I do trust Marco's ears and the others such as Dave Cawley...if they say its as good as it is I think you can take that to the bank. However you may not like the sound or it may not suit your set up.


I do understand though where Shaun is coming from not every one wants to buy something and then have to rip it apart. I guess they can then buy one from Dave Cawley...complete and ready to go.

For me my true love is my Oracle Delphi mk4 and being honest it is as much about the looks as the sound.




Regards D S D L

[Haselsh1]

Now that's what I call a turntable...!!! A massive piece of engineering and fantastic value for money. Someone here mentioned a Michell Orbe. That would be my first choice always if money was no object. It is...!

[hifi_dave]

Neil,
Is that a Parnassus on the end of your SME ?

David