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    Yep, or add another woofer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Yep, or add another woofer.
    Ali, I understand where you're coming from but in this case the dipole bass driver is covering from 22hz to aound 100Hz, the 6db loss is only apparent below 63hz. The Bastani wideband driver is 100db efficient whereas the Neo bass drivers need a good amount of watts and their own amplification. I have 2 bass drivers per side myself.
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    Ali, I understand where you're coming from but in this case the dipole bass driver is covering from 22hz to aound 100Hz, the 6db loss is only apparent below 63hz. The Bastani wideband driver is 100db efficient whereas the Neo bass drivers need a good amount of watts and their own amplification. I have 2 bass drivers per side myself.
    Thanks Clive,
    1st and formost get to bed and get well mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falcoron View Post
    Thanks Clive,
    1st and formost get to bed and get well mate.
    Thanks Ron, I'm doing better now as the drugs have kicked in.
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    Thanks Ron, I'm doing better now as the drugs have kicked in.
    Great now get yer finger out stop feeling sorry and get my speakers sorted!

    I have written to Vic to ask about the Behringer DSP amp he is using and see if that would be better for a numpty like me. If it is i will sell the DEQ and the pro amp and get one.
    Watch this space

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    Ali, I understand where you're coming from but in this case the dipole bass driver is covering from 22hz to aound 100Hz, the 6db loss is only apparent below 63hz. The Bastani wideband driver is 100db efficient whereas the Neo bass drivers need a good amount of watts and their own amplification. I have 2 bass drivers per side myself.
    No need for another bass driver ali im getting too much bass as it is.
    Clive the Seleniums are 99db so these are easy to drive too.
    I have taken the pill and bought the berhinger NU1000dsp with inuke.
    Vic has sent me the settings for the 1 bass driver version so i will at least get the integration with the wide band and the neo's that was missing. Then i can get the room sorted with the settings. I can do this in real time from my laptop in the sitting position according to vic so lets see how a complete technophobe gets on, but at least i have all the settings for the bass to work properly in this set up. Also just found out from a pro amp expert the reasom my amp was humming was the rca connections are wrong and he said i need to get the proper ones and this will be as quite as the grave, But i have no need of it now so selling on. the qed pro curve which is a great bit of kit but waaaaay over my head has also been sold to jerry on here,
    Will let you know how i get on with the new dsp amp and am waiting by my window for delivery
    Ron

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    Hi Ron, I'm sure you'll find the iNuke much easier to work with and in real-time too.

    Re the 99db Seleniums.....yes they are 99db but once you stick them in an open baffle you get a lot of cancellation from the rear wall so you don't achieve 99db efficiency. Hence the 6db boost needed below 63Hz.
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    Yeah i saw that on the settings Vic has sent, should make a great difference. Not coming today though. Will be monday i hope. So cant play at the moment.

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    Just in case anyone was wondering about this project, i now have the inuke amp in place and the settings sent from Vic dialled in, also rewired the speakers and decoupled them from the floor with adjustable cones which has allowed me to set the baffles level and more upright than before, think the slope backwards didnt help the sound at all, then added 2 granite plinths the the rear. All i can do is say WOW! what a different pair of speakers i now have, intergration between the mid and bass is seamless, bass is tight and deep without any bloom or room boom ( lot of 0's there!) Adding the Hovland pre to this heady mix only made things a great deal better the seperation and soundstage have opened up significantly and although hard to tell if the revamp had a big part to play or the pre is doing all this on its own i cant be sure but its more likely to be both. Either way im not bothered as this works so well now so im as happy as a pig is muck.
    Im seriously overwhelmed,delighted and well bloody chuffed as chuffed can be.
    Its been a long journey and one i would do over without hessitation i would encourage others to try this once in their hi fi travels, if you do and you get it right i think you may well find as i did there is nothing in a box that comes close.
    Anyone that can is very welcome to come hear these.
    cheers

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