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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post
    You are John, but I'd be just the same tbh.
    Great. I'll take pedantry a bit further on: An pitch increase from 440 to 442 is just over 0.4%. A speed increase of 0.4% will make a 20min. LP side about six seconds shorter. Hell, you're losing out on twelve seconds of pleasure per LP!!
    John

    Edit: More accurate calculations give loss of 10.9 secs per LP. Not quite as bad as I thought!
    Last edited by jonners; 03-02-2009 at 12:30. Reason: Greater pedantic accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user34 View Post
    More like, I know what I meant
    That's the one Peter!!
    Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonners View Post
    Great. I'll take pedantry a bit further on: An pitch increase from 440 to 442 is just over 0.4%. A speed increase of 0.4% will make a 20min. LP side about six seconds shorter. Hell, you're losing out on twelve seconds of pleasure per LP!!
    John

    Edit: More accurate calculations give loss of 10.9 secs per LP. Not quite as bad as I thought!
    Quality post!!

    (ever felt the need to get out more John??)
    Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post

    (ever felt the need to get out more John??)

    Good advice. I'll go and take a walk in the snow. I may be gone some time.....

    Johmn

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    It's here - time to dig out the soldering iron.
    Richard.

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    OK a quick update

    Not had a chance to listen during the week, but did some more listening today,

    Patricia Barber Companion

    Marvin Gaye What's going on

    Jacintha the look of love 12' single

    Siouxsie and the banshees peep show

    After hearing these few album's i would say the timestep is not a subtle difference it is a jaw to the floor upgrade, the extra clarity' much more depth'
    fluid bass lines and incredible low level detail.

    One point i need to make is this is not your typical romantic vinyl sound,
    it sounds utterly neutral.

    The timestep is IMHO an even bigger upgrade than the lingo was for the lp12.

    Well done to Dave Cawley

    if you have a 1200 you just have to get one of these' find the cash somehow.
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    Nice one, Chris

    Adding a high quality PSU to the Techy is a no-brainer upgrade and is essential in order for the deck to achieve its full potential, which as you know is quite considerable!

    At some point I must do a back to back comparison between the Time Step and the PS-1200.

    Enjoy!

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Thanks Marco

    Yes indeed ' you know its difficult for me to put into words just how much better
    this is but put simply its just come to life and sounds so together.
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Well done to Dave Cawley
    if you have a 1200 you just have to get one of these' find the cash somehow.
    Totally agree Chris - I was >this< close to selling my 1210 on before I got the Time Step, simply because it just sounded so uninvolving, lacking real direction/momentum/rhythmic realism. Adding the psu saw an immediate improvement (basically wiped out these negative observations at a stroke) and improved over its first 48 hours to where it has now flattened off.

    If you have any plans at all to do just one upgrade to the 1210, for heaven's sake get the psu sorted. A total outlay for a new 1210 & TimeStep would be around £650 which is a joke for something this good. Then decide what you want to do re arms etc. The old adage of 'the turntable (ie the bit that goes round) is the most important bit in the chain' rings true here, no argument IMO.

    I'm running mine now with the Lyra Dorian in the std arm (which on the surface of it seems like total overkill, but it really does work!) and it sounds just fabulous.

    If I end up selling the 1210 at least I'll now know what can be done, for a relatively small outlay, to turn it into something that plays music properly.
    Richard.

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    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
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    Great stuff, Richard. It's really a joy to hear you saying that given, as you say, how close you were to selling it...

    In my experience the quality of the PSU in any piece of hi-fi equipment is fundamentally the most important thing - everything else follows on from that.

    It's interesting though how well the Dorian seems to be performing in the stock arm. I thought this was up at Johnnie's being 'pimped' or have you changed your mind on that one?

    Do you know which deck yet you're bringing to the show? Please say the Pioneer as I'd love to hear it!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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