It may or may not happen, but
all the talk of jelcos and sme arms has pushed my crosshairs onto vics terminator.
firstly i need to sort the 'dust cover' and 'mounting plate' issues.
if i can sort them to my satisfaction -watch this space
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It may or may not happen, but
all the talk of jelcos and sme arms has pushed my crosshairs onto vics terminator.
firstly i need to sort the 'dust cover' and 'mounting plate' issues.
if i can sort them to my satisfaction -watch this space
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Let me know if you want any views....here's a pic of one component of the arm:Originally Posted by muffinman
It may or may not happen, but
all the talk of jelcos and sme arms has pushed my crosshairs onto vics terminator.
firstly i need to sort the 'dust cover' and 'mounting plate' issues.
if i can sort them to my satisfaction -watch this space
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Consider me terminated
does this make me a pioneer or have i missed that boat too?
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Gareth.
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Back to the original... I've been living with the OL on my 1210 now for a while, and whilst its OK... it ain't great. Just a bit - well nonedescript really. I can't seem to get the tracking right - you'll remember that the stock arm tracked brilliantly 'out of the box' as it were. So I may well try to rewire, replace with a Sumiko headshell and see where we go from there. Missed the boat well and truly on the OC9, now they've gone through the roof price-wise. Ahh well...
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Interesting, that seems to agree with Richard's (Gromit's) remarks about his J7 reworked 250.
As for the cartridge, you could look at an audiocubesII sourced AT33PTG.
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Peter,
It just proves what I've said all along - Regas are not an 'upgrade' on the Technics arm, especially when the latter is Cardas rewired and fluid-damped.
I didn't think that Richard's reworked Rega was the reason for his current dissatisfaction with the Techy... I thought J7s arm had improved it
Marco.
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Indeed it has improved it - and by a not insignificant margin. Saying that, I'm putting the 1210's arm in the Post up to Johnnie tomorrow - he's going to sprinkle some magic Origami dust on it for me...oh yes.
I didn't think that Richard's reworked Rega was the reason for his current dissatisfaction with the Techy... I thought J7s arm had improved it
Marco.
(well it'd be silly not to wouldn't it?)
Over the last few days I have got to wondering slightly if the Rega-based arms, even when J7's worked his magic on them, aren't perhaps the best match for the Technics. Maybe, in the same way as the 103 likes a lossy set-up, the 1210 itself prefers a lossier arm - the RB's are so stiff that they dump a lot of (unwanted) energy into the loop. Certainly in terms of grip and control the RB251 is stunning - turn the wick up and it's quite breathtaking such is its speed and bass grip. It's just all a bit much at times. On the right turntable the RB's work beautifully (I love it on the Spacedeck, for example, and would keep my 251 for any time I might get a NAS again) but I think, and this is just a hunch, that the 1210 needs something with a slightly more genteel balance to complement its own set of strengths.
I'd also love to try a unipivot on it.
Richard.
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Which mods is the J-meister doing for you?
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Johnnie's doing the full Cardas (in & out), a bespoke counterweight in brushed brass (to balance out the 7kg or so of ballast I use with the 103) and also do a bearing check and lube. I really want to get that Denon earning its living properly on the 1210 and feel this, apart from going for a unipivot or the Jelco 750 (I'm not rich like Marco) feel this is the only way I'm going to be able to do it.
I can change the arm on the 1210 in under 30 mins now so it'll be fun having the 2 of them to use.
Richard.
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Richard,
If it's not a rude Q can you PM me the cost of the mods you're doing on the stocka rm and contact details for Johnny please? I may well go down this route over DIY...
Jason
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