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    Hi,
    Adding 18k resistors to the relays has not stopped the clicking noise in my case. I suppose that next i will endeavour to replace these relays with wire links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeddycole View Post
    Hi,
    Adding 18k resistors to the relays has not stopped the clicking noise in my case. I suppose that next i will endeavour to replace these relays with wire links.
    Hi Jared, would you mind popping into the welcome section of the forum & introducing yourself please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    You can try the folowing mod. The resistors are 18K.

    I tried this a while ago Stan.
    The relays still make the noise.
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    In the payback signal or inside the case?

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    I'll dig out an offending CD and double check, but I think it's both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeddycole View Post
    Hi,
    Adding 18k resistors to the relays has not stopped the clicking noise in my case. I suppose that next i will endeavour to replace these relays with wire links.
    May I say that contrary to my previous post, adding resistors as per the photo has resolved the problem afterall. I didn't realise at first for the following reason: The DAC now works when it appears to be switched off. The effect of pressing the power button is now to turn off the LEDs and reduce the volume slightly. The unit functions in this way without the noise which, to clarify, was coming from inside the case and was never present in the signal. I hope this may be of help to someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    In the payback signal or inside the case?
    I'll dig out an offending CD and double check, but I think it's both.

    It's both.
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    There is nothing that can be done about the mechanical noise that relays make I am afraid. Noiseless electronic relays are however not suitable for audio use. So the mechanical noise from the relays inside the DAC, when the relays are triggered, can't be defeated.

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    No, this is not Stan, but a friend of mine that I helped with the alteration and comparing his Caiman to my 7520 to diagnose problems (which had quieter relays). We both still use the DACs every day, him in his main system and me in my computer room.

    Need to save for a Bushmaster though to replace the DacMagic in my main system. (Need volume control in computer room)

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    Living room: PC with Audioquest Dragonfly, Pi DAC, Sky Q, IncaTech Claymore, Kans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    Is that you Stan? You have been caught out posing as different members on different forums, so find it interesting with new members starting several Bushmaster threads.
    I just saw this post and feel very much insulted by it.
    On which sites have I been posting as different members, and have I been caught out doing so? Can you provide the wider AoS community with some more details to back up these slanderous claims of yours?

    In fact there is no wonder that a sub-forum has had to be created due to the huge amount of discussion!
    I had nothing to do with the sub-forum. I don't own any bit of AoS, and neither have I got a say in how it is run and made up. I am merely a registered member just like the majority of us here. The only privileged status that I have is that I am registered as a trade member. But that still has no bearing on the sub-forum. I can see you getting in trouble with the admin team since you are implying complicity and underhand tactics between them and me.



    I have used Beresford DACs for several years including second systems & almost feel like I need to purchase a Bushmaster, spend some time with it and compare it to my own DAC the internal marketing on this forum is so strong...!
    I have always encouraged buyers of my DAC to consult this forum for advise on matters relating to anything about HIFI and HIFI equipment, not just about DAC. It should not come as a surprise then if a new member, who has bought one of my DACs, begins with a thread or introduction that relates to the product that brought them here in the first place.
    It has nothing to do with internal marketing. Nobody has ever been asked by me to mention my DAC on AoS as part of a marketing strategy.



    EDIT: oh, you haven't posted for over a year, back when you were posting in a few Beresford threads.
    I assume that you are still referring to the poster bpcairns. I can assure you that I am not bpcairns. I assume that it is a former customer of my who lives in Johnstone. I shall send him an email and see if he is still about and can respond to you with regards to your comments. I have no idea why he has not posted for over a year. I do know that a couple of my customers have passed away over the years, and one passed away just a month or two after first registering here earlier this year. Other people have since moved on and bought a different DAC, or left AoS for various reasons.

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