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    Hi Mike,

    I’m ok with a handshake on meeting but draw the line at holding someone’s hand while they quiver and quake for whatever reason.

    I like to be tidy with my upgrades and removing all redundant components keeps things tidy. If anyone wants to do this a different way, that’s fine, as long as you do not leave anything on board that will cause problems.

    Good advice regarding the coils.

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    I would suggest that anyone contemplating a bearing upgrade on the SL1200/1210 should do this before fitting my internal regulator upgrade. This will avoid disturbing the solid core copper or silver wire, used to connect the regulators to the motor board, when removing the motor board for bearing installation.

    I upgraded a customer’s SL1210 last week and this already had a Mike New bearing fitted. I have to say that I am very impressed with this bearing. The bearing is so precise yet it runs so feely. Absolutely amazing. A first class product. I am looking forward to receiving my bearing from Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Hynes View Post
    I would suggest that anyone contemplating a bearing upgrade on the SL1200/1210 should do this before fitting my internal regulator upgrade. This will avoid disturbing the solid core copper or silver wire, used to connect the regulators to the motor board, when removing the motor board for bearing installation.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Hynes View Post

    I upgraded a customer’s SL1210 last week and this already had a Mike New bearing fitted. I have to say that I am very impressed with this bearing. The bearing is so precise yet it runs so feely. Absolutely amazing. A first class product. I am looking forward to receiving my bearing from Mike.

    Regards
    Paul
    Marco, if you're reading this, I hope you will appreciate WHY I did not want to install your MN base plate as you will appreciate that everything has to be taken out first and I knew there was a potential prob of possible damage to your PH PSU + regs My abilities are with mechanical rather than higher electronics of the nature that Paul, Martin and Anthony find commonplace and easy. Hope you understand mate.

    Cheers
    Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    This will still leave C3 connected across the new supply.
    If you look at the photo of my mod work you should just be able to see that I have left C3 in place (top, slightly left of centre).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Hynes View Post
    I would suggest that anyone contemplating a bearing upgrade on the SL1200/1210 should do this before fitting my internal regulator upgrade. This will avoid disturbing the solid core copper or silver wire, used to connect the regulators to the motor board, when removing the motor board for bearing installation.

    I upgraded a customer’s SL1210 last week and this already had a Mike New bearing fitted. I have to say that I am very impressed with this bearing. The bearing is so precise yet it runs so feely. Absolutely amazing. A first class product. I am looking forward to receiving my bearing from Mike.

    Regards
    Paul
    The bearing is a truly great upgrade.
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

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    Quote Originally Posted by jostber View Post
    The bearing is a truly great upgrade.
    And Jostein its even BETTER with Mike New's base plate, so don't forget folks to do these jobs FIRST before the PH PSU + regs!!!!

    One question: Whats your Furutech Monza LP stabilzer like compared to others you have possibly used and whats the weight? I've tried really heavy buggers but they squash the life out of the music.

    Cheers mate
    Ron

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    If you look at the photo of my mod work you should just be able to see that I have left C3 in place (top, slightly left of centre).

    You've left C3 and R2 and R4 (according to your picture) ( Any ideas why mate??


    Do you always leave the plastic cover off the top of the motor coil as well?? Surely dust can get in there??
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    You've left C3 and R2 and R4 (according to your picture) ( Any ideas why mate??

    Do you always leave the plastic cover off the top of the motor coil as well?? Surely dust can get in there??
    R2 and R4 perform no function with Q1 gone. C3 helps provide a little more regulation to the 21V line for the motor drive circuit.

    Yes, I leave the plastic cover off because it sounds better. I did that ever since installing the MN bearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzBones View Post
    And Jostein its even BETTER with Mike New's base plate, so don't forget folks to do these jobs FIRST before the PH PSU + regs!!!!

    One question: Whats your Furutech Monza LP stabilzer like compared to others you have possibly used and whats the weight? I've tried really heavy buggers but they squash the life out of the music.

    Cheers mate
    Ron
    Thanks, I will check more on that base plate as well. I have only tried the Furutech Monza on this deck and it works great for me. The weight is 340 g. and has electrical damping through the piezo materials, as well as the mechanical damping.
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

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