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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oh boy, have you got a MASSIVE upgrade to look forward to!
    Not to mention an absolutely gorgeous piece of kit to admire!

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    LOL. Indeed

    Once you've done that, Pete, you need to add a Time Step PSU (if you haven't already done so), some new feet, and you're ready to rock and roll

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I might just mod the KAB psu to a similar fuctionality as the Timestep psu.

    I think I will look into some kind of sorbothane feet from Herbies.

    Iis been a long wait for the SME 309 (ordered before Christmas) but I'm sure it will be worth it when it gets here.

    A buddy of mine is picking up an SME 10 turntable with SME 10 arm today
    I believe his tonearm is almost identical to the 309 arm, so we will be setting that up today. Good practice for me when my 309 gets here
    Hearing is believing

    SL-1210 Mk5 w/Mike New Platter/bearing/armboard; Hynes SR5 DIY PSU;
    Zyx Airy3X; SME V; Hashimoto HM7 SUT; CJ PR15MkII Phono w/teflon caps.

    Modwright LS36.5 Dual Mono Preamp & KWA 150 amp > Paradigm Ref 100 v.4s

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    Hi Pete,

    I didn't realise that you had the KAB psu. I wouldn't bother altering anything then if I were you.

    What mat are you using? I looks either like the thick rubber mat or an Achromat...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hi
    I used to have the SME 310 identical to your 309 just 10' version, lovely arm
    i had some living voice arm leads ' god i wish i still had it

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    I'm so out of date, but the 309 did lovely things with a Troika (special SME drilled headshell) on an LP12...

    The most I'll ever have to look at is the M2, which looks good as long as you're not using a 103 , although that Jelco, while it's under £500, looks to be excellent value (I bet the next batch will be much more expensive).
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Join Date: Dec 2008

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    I'm Pete.

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    5mm achromat.
    Hearing is believing

    SL-1210 Mk5 w/Mike New Platter/bearing/armboard; Hynes SR5 DIY PSU;
    Zyx Airy3X; SME V; Hashimoto HM7 SUT; CJ PR15MkII Phono w/teflon caps.

    Modwright LS36.5 Dual Mono Preamp & KWA 150 amp > Paradigm Ref 100 v.4s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I think I will look into some kind of sorbothane feet from Herbies
    I wouldn't bother when Foculpods (otherwise known as Feet 1 by Sound Hi-Fi) fit right in when you unscrew the Technics feet.

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    A buddy of mine is picking up an SME 10 turntable with SME 10 arm today
    I believe his tonearm is almost identical to the 309 arm, so we will be setting that up today. Good practice for me when my 309 gets here
    It would be interesting to compare his SME10 to your modded Techy when you get your new tonearm fitted... I think that I can predict the outcome

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Default Mounting Plates

    The new plates allow for correct VTA adjustment. You may see others where two plates are separated by some simple thin spacers to get the bottom plate lower. These small spacers are resonant and effectively decouple the arm as well. Not an awfully good idea. So our new plate is made of three blocks of aluminium. The dissipation of this effective 'lump of metal' is very good indeed. Tweakers can try very thin layers of rubber or even blotting paper, either on one or both layers. For the DL-103 best results will be obtained with everything locked up solid. The extra cost is going to Germany and also having them anodised in silver and black. If we could find some one in the UK that could laser cut and anodise, and can be arsed with small orders, it would be cheaper!

    As for a Rega version, well we are talking about improving the SL-1200 and a standard Rega arm does not fare well in our system. We will be dumping our Rega arms and a couple of original Soundsuport plates on eBay in a few weeks.

    Our quest is all about fidelity not fashion. www.SL-1200-MK2.com

    Marco, do you want to bring your SL-1210 to http://www.chestergroup.org/index.ph...k=detail&id=11 and chat with AOS members? I'll give you some room on our stand for free if you buy the coffee?

    Regards

    Dave

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