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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    I found the Achromat on top , just added some muddle and distortion ? But the jury is still out on my current cart !
    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    Hi Chris - this is exactly what I found at first and had a helpful debate with Marco who was very sure it should be better with the Acromat but I didnt think so. Anyway, after the Vantage PSU and PCB upgrade I revisited the whole "mat thing" and much to my surprise it now sounds better with the Achromat - go figure

    Rather than the mid range being muddled as you found it is now better defined - vocals have better emotion and basslines are fuller and better defined. Imaging is a little more forward with better "3D" depth. I certainly prefer the sound now with the Acromat. Don't know if it's just coincidence but the Decca is really on-song - it always tracked the first 3 HFN test record "tracking tracks" but now tracks the 4th near perfectly. Probably just a combination of getting all the little things right. I have bought a Stanton 681 EEE III (well birthday pressie from my mom actually) but am reluctant to install it now as I dont want to "mess up" the current geometry as it's working so well.

    Steve

    Hi Steve

    That is very interesting and perhaps i was rather hasty in selling my Achromat ? But it scarcely matter's as at the moment i don't even have a psu for my 1210 , having sold the Timestep , my Techie is going to be off line for some time the big kitchen project has now taken over and I'm going to be skint for a while but it means so much to Caren , i think i can manage on my other techies

    The other problem is the cartridge I'm really not sure about the "precept" it may have to go ? But that can wait also .
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    Hi Chris - this is exactly what I found at first and had a helpful debate with Marco who was very sure it should be better with the Acromat but I didnt think so. Anyway, after the Vantage PSU and PCB upgrade I revisited the whole "mat thing" and much to my surprise it now sounds better with the Achromat - go figure
    Hehehehe..... The Marco-boy is usually always right!

    Seriously though, Steve, I'm glad things are singing for you now - regardless of how you've achieved it!

    Hopefully Chris can get there soon, too.....

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

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    You are all wrong on the mat front Im afraid. There is an excellent leather mat available on EBay and this is my favourite by far. I'm not sure how it sounds but I have to lick it all over before placing an LP on it....mmmmmm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    You are all wrong on the mat front Im afraid. There is an excellent leather mat available on EBay and this is my favourite by far. I'm not sure how it sounds but I have to lick it all over before placing an LP on it....mmmmmm!

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    Anyone checked out the Vantage bronze mat? Is this to be used with a soft mat?
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

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    I think there is a thin copper and bronze mat that Vantage sell or do you mean the platter mod ? Which I have and is very good !
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    I meant the bronze mat, but could not find any specs or pictures of it.
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

  8. #88
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    You'll have to contact Vantage and talk to Richard , but from what he told me the
    copper mat is better , but if you want to try it , he can make you one.
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    Thanks, I have dropped him a mail.
    My hifi system:

    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

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    Resurrecting this thread to see if you guys are all still happy with the Vantage copper modified platter?

    And also whether you felt it did function better with the Achromat on top or not?


    Thanks
    System:

    SL1210 > Whest PS 3.0RDT> Audio Research LS17 pre> Lyngdorf RP1 room correction> Lyngdorf sda 2175 > Monitor Audio Platinum 300 speakers

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