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Thread: How good can D.I.Y speakers really get? - Enter Mr Al Newall

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    Join Date: Jan 2009

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    Default Brand names? Not a problem!

    Owning an embarassing plethora of DIY amps, me and my audio pals sort-of invented a code, nothing special, it's a joke, but... we call our projects with friend name who made or tuned, who gave the haviest foot, better "finger" print to circuit or aesthetic... i.e. - Gianni's transformers-coupled WE300B are leaner than Franz's Partridges/WE300B... Eugenio's RE-604... nice.. well, you got the idea.
    After this little, cheap, humble, revolutionary "naming", we sort-of gave a new dignity to these painstakingly assembled, tuned and lovingly listened and cherished handicrafts.
    As we're all aware, humanity and culture are greatly word-sensitive, and "no-name" is blamed per-se. Try to call your partner: (using a gruntly voice) "hey, woman!"...
    DIY, seems sub-culture, but it's a little better, as it defines an area, at least... but a "Franz's WE300B" sounds (it indeed do!!!) much, MUCH better and makes a world of difference, don't you?
    Stefano Bertoncello

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    Join Date: Sep 2008

    Location: norwich

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    Any piccies of these speakers?
    i'm looking for a low cost project to get my juices flowing over the next few months
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    recovering audioholic

    Technics: SL 1210 mk2 / KAB PS1200 psu /Trans-fi Terminator / AT-OC9MLII / WD ph3s /Bluesound node 2i/Musical Fidelity Ms3i/ WADkit 6550 / Tannoy revolution xt8f

    Gareth.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    Gareth,

    If you do a search for 'Chesterfest' or 'Owston' and look for the big-ish white, flat, OBs in any of the pics, those are Al's. Otherwise when he gets to this thread he might be able to post some separate pictures

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Join Date: May 2008

    Location: Bristol, UK

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    I'm Nick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquapiranha View Post
    IMHO DIY is the way to go. If you can live without the glitzy name tag and the pat on the back from like minded brand hungry forum goers, you can save yourself a bundle and have a fantastic system to boot!
    I think this should be added to the 'Ethos' post I would always rather have a well made DIY component than spend a wad trying to achieve the same performance with no effort. And that goes as much for DIY equipment bought second hand as stuff I'd made myself (of which I have very little right now, but hope to improve upon soon )
    [SIZE="1"]Nick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    big-ish
    I think i'll use that when my wife asks what they'll look like
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    recovering audioholic

    Technics: SL 1210 mk2 / KAB PS1200 psu /Trans-fi Terminator / AT-OC9MLII / WD ph3s /Bluesound node 2i/Musical Fidelity Ms3i/ WADkit 6550 / Tannoy revolution xt8f

    Gareth.

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    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Location: east yorkshire

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    I'm steve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twogoodears View Post
    Hi Steve... so we share same name
    I'm jealous about your PX25's... the best sound I ever listened - cost no object - was coming from a Axiom 80's baffles-pair fed by single 71A based amps... also love RE-604 and AD-1's DIY amps using 70's Partridges irons and paper-in-oil caps... In my system: too bad I find single WE300B/Partridges amps and autoformers x-overs MUCH better than (better on paper) multiamping, these days... and 10Y, 71A, AD-1 and 45 or 350's have finesse BUT not guts enough for my actual system... too bad.
    I tried yesterday evening a couple disks using a DIY amp using 71A and, airy and poetic sound, it lacked the authority and cojones of 300B...
    A friend recently improved his 211 single transformers-coupled amps using WE212... i.e. - 211 guts and filament using the same material of WE300B... AMAZING blend of good qualities... for BIG bucks price-tag.
    ... but Koji at EIFL-Japan still have plenty of these super-triodes... 'til they last.
    Stefano,
    I'm into british valves, px4, px25 and the 2p are my most used output valves..
    mainly because i dont need many watts.. a couple is enough.. i have quite a lot of valves.. but there's some i haven't tried.. mostly US types,
    i have a nice old pair of 4300a's, they sound very well, i do need to make an amp for them soon

    steve
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    collector and DIY user of old british triode valves

    Open baffles / single ended diy px4 and px25 valve amps

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    Join Date: Apr 2008

    Location: east yorkshire

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    I'm steve.

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    open baffles.. well i thought a picture of mine might be approprate at this point.. they are quite big but dont look too out of place
    the size is the issue with most baffles

    I would not get them past every wife i've had...
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    collector and DIY user of old british triode valves

    Open baffles / single ended diy px4 and px25 valve amps

  8. #18
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    Default Just kidding, Steve...

    Quote Originally Posted by SPS View Post
    i have a nice old pair of 4300a's, they sound very well, i do need to make an amp for them soon
    ... but, if failing (something I'm not wishing, indeed...) on this, I nonetheless kindly ask you to drop me a line... my offer pronto won't be late...

    Mo' seriously... nice collection.
    Stefano Bertoncello

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    I would not get them past every wife i've had...
    How many wifes have you had, you sex God?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  10. #20
    Join Date: May 2008

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    I'm Nick.

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    I'm not sure if they're all his own... come on, 'fess up, Steve
    [SIZE="1"]Nick

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