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    Quote Originally Posted by terrybooth View Post
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    I haven't quite sorted the usability side out. What I'd like to be able to do is to sit with a tablet in my hand and control the set from there. There are quite a few ways to skin that cat but I just haven't settled on one yet.
    Terry, what tablet options have you tried with the TFS booted into Linux?

    With Win7/JRiver I've recently adopted JRemote to use with iPhone/iPad. It's become my remote of choice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed

    Btw, now that I've got the TFS head unit and PSU suitably spaced apart (rather than just sitting on top of each other, as we first had it), I'm going to have to reassess how good the in-built DAC actually is, which is much better than I'd first thought - and that's just with 'ordinary' music rips!

    Marco.
    Do you still have the TFS plugged into your filter?

    If so that's another difference. We didn't have it plugged into the filter when we first listened to the TFS DAC.
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    Yup - that's another difference... It's still plugged into the filter.

    Rather good that filter, isn't it?

    Perhaps you can appreciate what I've been describing about the removal of distortion caused by 'digital switching noise'?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docfoster View Post
    Ooo...get you with your fancy new automated features...!
    ;-)
    Ben, if you feel brave I can talk you through updating the sound driver - it's pretty easy actually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Figlet108 View Post
    Ben, if you feel brave I can talk you through updating the sound driver - it's pretty easy actually.
    Thanks.
    I'm game.
    NVA TFS media PC > One4 (Wonfor) Class A power amp > Homemade 3-way speakers
    DC blocker > Sovereign MTBPS balanced power supply.
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    Aye, that's what your namesake 'Dover' said!



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welder View Post
    To my mind the great thing about file based audio and servers such as this, assuming the reported performance is accurate, is the cost v performance ratio.

    I've seen thousands of pounds chucked at vinyl replay and later heard it demolished by a few hundred pounds worth of computer bits. This for me anyway is one of the great things about file based audio you can achieve stunning sound at a fraction of the cost of a top performing record player and this puts high quality audio within reach of a great many people who just couldn't afford the equivalent sounding record setup.

    It really doesn't matter whether vinyl or file gives ultimately the best replay, what matters is a greater number of people can have access to excellent sound quality at an affordable price.
    Nicely put, John. I completely echo those sentiments.

    However, out of interest, let's put my own situation into perspective, as a comparison: to date, the Techy (including the price I originally paid for it, brand new) has cost me around £5.5k, and sonically, it's currently roughly 3% ahead of the TFS/Sony DAC, which as a combo costs just under £5k. For reference, the Sony DAC, in total, with all the mods, has cost me £3k. The X-777ES CDP, including mods, has cost me £1.5k.

    I'd say that the TFS/Sony combo was roughly 5% sonically superior to the X-777ES/DAS-R1 combo, which I guess is how close a top CD player (transport) gets to producing a 'bit-perfect' music signal.

    So what does that tell us, in terms of what you're referring to? I'm not quite sure... Certainly, as far as I'm concerned, one thing is definite: it takes a certain level of quality for me to be entirely satisfied with digital music replay.

    I had arrived at that happy situation before the TFS came along, but since its arrival, at the level my system is at, the extra 5% performance jump it has given over my CDP, has had a very significant impact on the pleasure I derive from listening to my favourite digitally recorded music.

    What price can you put on that?

    Marco.

    P.S Some feedback on the results of listening to HR recordings, using the in-built DAC of the TFS, and also my conclusive thoughts on how the DAC inside the TFS compares to the Sony, will be coming later!
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Oh, and as an aside, I'm currently listening to a vinyl recording of Stevie Ray Vaughan's 'Texas Flood', which Snapper did for me a while ago, taken from his LP12 and transferred to CD, which I've since ripped to the TFS - and it sounds f*cking STUNNING!!

    Now *that* puts and interesting spin on things... Ripping your vinyl to the TFS and streaming it directly from there. This does sound markedly superior than most CDs (taken from a digital music source) do when subjected to the same treatment.

    Thoughts, anyone?

    Mmm... I must start doing this with my own T/T!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oh, and as an aside, I'm currently listening to a vinyl recording of Stevie Ray Vaughan's 'Texas Flood', which Snapper did for me a while ago, taken from his LP12 and transferred to CD, which I've since ripped to the TFS - and it sounds f*cking STUNNING!!

    Now *that* puts and interesting spin on things... Ripping your vinyl to the TFS and streaming it directly from there. This does sound markedly superior than most CDs (taken from a digital music source) do when subjected to the same treatment.

    Thoughts, anyone?

    Mmm... I must start doing this with my own T/T!

    Marco.
    Done quite a few myself, and I really like the results I'm getting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oh, and as an aside, I'm currently listening to a vinyl recording of Stevie Ray Vaughan's 'Texas Flood', which Snapper did for me a while ago, taken from his LP12 and transferred to CD, which I've since ripped to the TFS - and it sounds f*cking STUNNING!!

    Now *that* puts and interesting spin on things... Ripping your vinyl to the TFS and streaming it directly from there. This does sound markedly superior than most CDs (taken from a digital music source) do when subjected to the same treatment.

    Thoughts, anyone?

    Mmm... I must start doing this with my own T/T!

    Marco.


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