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    This platter as you see it, weighs in at about 3.5Kg. The Copper Bonded Solid Alluminium Platter comes in at about 6Kg both depending on the thickness.
    The stock platter weighs in at about 1.5Kg
    So your new platter weighs roughly half of that of the aluminium platter... Interesting.

    As an aside, note how successfully the black platter compliments the well at the base of the stock tonearm (the same would also apply if an ebony armboard were fitted):





    I know you're not as focussed on aesthetics, as you are on engineering your designs, but trust me, these things matter!

    Any idea yet what you're going to call your new platter? What exactly is the material that it's made from called?

    Also I am now machining a 2mm outer skirt under the platter edge, so that anyone who decides to fit the Bearing base Plate at a later date, can do so without upsetting the aesthetics.
    Good idea. I'd also incorporate a label recess, as standard

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Good idea. I'd also incorporate a label recess as standard
    You may not want a label recess if you're going to use a hard mat like the Achromat and bond it with vaseline. The more surface area that mates the two, the better.

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    Indeed, Martin, the recess would be as standard only for those who don't wish to use the likes of an Achromat.

    I mentioned what I did only because it appeared that Mike's original intention was for the platter to be used 'as is', in which case a label recess would be mandatory

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Yea,
    This is a fine point Martin I personally believe as I have said, that the thicker mats with machined label recess, are not going to be ideal with the ETP paltter.
    Refering to Marco's questions,
    I would prefer not to identify the exact material that I am using at this point in time.
    Suffice it to say that I did do some research in collaboration with materials consultants before selecting this particular type of ETP.

    "Any idea yet what you're going to call your new platter?"

    Yes I will refer to it as my ETP platter, as really this does define its genesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed, Martin, the recess would be as standard only for those who don't wish to use the likes of an Achromat.

    I mentioned what I did only because it appeared that Mike's original intention was for the platter to be used 'as is', in which case a label recess would be mandatory

    Marco.
    My intention with this design is really to offer what people are personally convinced they want. If they intend to use the platter without a mat then a label recess would be required. Even with the thin, soft flexible mat shown a recess would be required.

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    Hi Mike,

    This is a fine point Martin I personally believe as I have said, that the thicker mats with machined label recess, are not going to be ideal with the ETP paltter.
    Interesting... And your rationale behind that is?

    Should that be the case, perhaps you could send the sample platter along with an appropriate thin mat, in order that the platter can be assesed to its (possible) best advantage? I don't own a thin mat, and I susepct neither does Martin.

    I would prefer not to identify the exact material that I am using at this point in time.
    Suffice it to say that I did do some research in collaboration with materials consultants before selecting this particular type of ETP.

    Yes I will refer to it as my ETP platter, as really this does define its genesis
    Coolio!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Sounds good, Mike. Yes - best to evaluate the ETP platter with your choice of mat, I think.

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    I would be hoping that others might step forward to do the honours of trying one.
    It does not seem to be reasonable that everyone should be relying on the work and opinions of two people. There must be a lot more enthusiasts out there who are in a position to contribute their advice.

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    I would be glad to evaluate your new platter Mike, as a present I'm using standard platter with an Oyaide mat. PM me please.

    John
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    SME Model 15/V tonearm, Sumiko Starling, Dynavector P75IV.

    Luxman 509X amp.

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    Innuos/Roon/Qobuz/I-Pad. Oppo UDP-205.

    Cables by Kimber, Yannis and Audioquest.

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    Black looks far cooler,
    Just wish my Psu was here and fitted, then i would have loved to have tried this out, by the time the Psu arrives(April) it will be to late as no doubt all the reviews will have been completed. Such a shame.
    Charles

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