Technics 1210 internal regulation mods

[Marco]

Indeed. I also suspect that Mr Cawley could provide a valid sample of such a beast...

In any case, I'd welcome with open arms putting my T/T up against an uber-upgraded SP10. Let's face it, I couldn't lose, because if it won, I'd simply buy one like it and sell my SL-1210 - simples!

It's important to bear in mind that the reason why I don't own an SP10, and have so far not been tempted to buy one, is because to my ears it's not better than what I've got. However, if that situation were to change, then you can bet your boots that I'd do something about it, pronto!

Remember, I don't do compromises

Marco.

[synsei]

Remember, I don't do compromises

Yup, I know that. I'm looking forward to hearing your TT, it'll give me a baseline to aim for

I'm not in a position to buy some of the upgrades you guys have fitted to your 1210's but I am looking forward to trailblazing my own path using other mods. It will be interesting to hear what can be achieved on my particular journey. I'm keen to try the regs mods in combination with a slightly less pricey PS. Who knows, I may even bite the bullet and attempt to build my own based on an existing design. One things for sure, I'll always have the insightful expertise of some of the boffins on AoS to draw from

[MartinT]

We do need to avoid exuding a sense of elitism about the whole Technics scene though and just concentrate on letting the turntable do the talking. If people like what they hear then the choice will be obvious to them...

Absolutely, Dave. I'm happy to let my deck do the talking. Those who hear it usually stop talking...

[chris@panteg]

I know which one I prefer. Can you guess which one it is?

SP10 for me too ! Remember if the 1200 can be elevated so high , the SP10 has a superior motor which can also be tweaked quite a bit ! The 1200 is always playing catch up

Just a thought about the Vantage mods , I suggest getting the bearing , PSU and platter as complete solution ! Rather than mix and match .

[Dingdong]

SP10 for me too ! Remember if the 1200 can be elevated so high , the SP10 has a superior motor which can also be tweaked quite a bit ! The 1200 is always playing catch up

Just a thought about the Vantage mods , I suggest getting the bearing , PSU and platter as complete solution ! Rather than mix and match .

Hello Chris,

Maybe I'll start a thread up on what to do with an SP-10 rather than go off topis with this thread. I'd be interested to hear what you have done with yours. I don't really want to get into a fight over which Teccy is the best. I think, with any hifi component, it's down to personal preference.

[MartinT]

Yes, can we please keep this thread for 1210 regulator mods? By all means start a new thread to discuss the SP10 in more detail.

[Marco]

SP10 for me too !

Yes, perhaps based on what you've heard so far from a modified SL-1200/1210. Ever thought of entertaining the notion, Chris, that your opinion might change once you've had more experience of listening to the former, especially the best examples of the breed?

I refer you to what I wrote yesterday:

He'll ['he' being Speedy Steve] tell you himself what happened, but let's just say that we both agreed that superb as his T/T was, no-one would be rushing out to buy an SP10, after hearing how good my modded SL-1210 sounded

I'm sure that the results were exactly the same when Martin's T/T was put into Steve's system, after his ebony armboard had been fitted. I'm afraid the fact is that unless you've taken part in these sort of comparisons, and heard the results for yourself, you simply don't have a clue.

I suggest that you read, and most importantly digest, the bit in bold

Remember if the 1200 can be elevated so high , the SP10 has a superior motor which can also be tweaked quite a bit ! The 1200 is always playing catch up

Aye, "catch up" with a 40-year old antique!!

Marco.

[chris@panteg]

One small point Marco my old sweetie , the SP10 is over 40 of course but I just realised the 1200 is guess what ? 40 this year lol:st

[Marco]

How old are all those EMT's that everybody raves about?

Superb - once they've been properly set-up and fettled by an expert, much like an SP10, and again much like an SP10, you'd never know for sure whether it was performing optimally, as it did when new, the day it left the factory...

Like Mike and Neal said yesterday, we need to accept that with vintage T/Ts of any description, there is always the possibility that wear and tear, through age, could ultimately limit their performance, in a way which cannot be rectified, short of replacing key parts (such as bearings).

Marco

[Marco]

One small point Marco my old sweetie , the SP10 is over 40 of course but I just realised the 1200 is guess what ? 40 this year lol:st

LOL - indeed. But the point is that the SP10 was discontinued long before the SL-1200!

The latter were on sale up until last year, matey. Therefore, if you've bought a new one recently, or reasonably recently (like me) you're not running a 40-year old T/T (or even a 23-year old 1989 one, when SP10s were last produced), but a one year old, or in my case, three and a half year old one

Marco.