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    Fair enough, Neil. Thanks for the reply.

    After many years of trying various cones and things I finally settled on the RDC1 cones as the best 'all round' solution for when I wasn't happy with the sound of a piece of kit. It did often result in a perceived improvement.

    I guess these things may come in phases - you gradually tend to take things for granted and then you have a sudden epiphany moment - and you realise that certain things do matter after all!
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    I have a friend who recently lent me some i/connects and home-made isolation platforms, and he gets really pissed off when I tell him 'I haven't done/tried it yet'.

    I definitely belong to the idle camp, but in reality, like Steve, only turn my amp's on to listen to music. I hate farting around with these tweaks as they often involve moving/powering down kit, or at best, fumbling !

    Luckily I'm almost sorted with the addition of a HiLine, which surprisingly does improve on my others (always sceptical).

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    Great post Neil
    I used to be like that but found for me it started getting in the way of enjoying the music I was listening to the changes as well as the music; thankfully these days I can switch this crytical listening on and off; but I am aware for myself its simply about enjoying the music! So tend to turn this on only when I have too
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    Fair enough, Neil. Thanks for the reply.

    After many years of trying various cones and things I finally settled on the RDC1 cones as the best 'all round' solution for when I wasn't happy with the sound of a piece of kit. It did often result in a perceived improvement.

    I guess these things may come in phases - you gradually tend to take things for granted and then you have a sudden epiphany moment - and you realise that certain things do matter after all!
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    Tbh - I was coming back on to AOS to delete that post of mine, as I no longer felt very cumfy with it!
    No problem Jerry

    I was happy with what you wrote.

    Regards D S D L
    Regards Neil

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    Very good idea Neil ! Tomorrow will be re-evaluation day for me ! I'll report any findings, promise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Very good idea Neil ! Tomorrow will be re-evaluation day for me ! I'll report any findings, promise.
    I look forward to reading about that Dimitri.


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    From The Grave

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    I've been going through this a lot recently, Neil. Lots of shenanigans because the cables I ordered don't sound like older versions of the same cable. As you could imagine, they were the last suspects because I knew these cables so well. Only I didn't! Much substituting later and they're going back, but it was a lesson in how a problem can be inaudible at first but starts getting under your skin and is a pain to track down.

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    I think I know where Jerry's coming from. It's easy to obsess about cables & supports etc. They matter but once they are fundamentally correct most further tweaks exist to drain you wallet make you feel like you improved the sound. Decent cables, as most here are very well aware, do not need to cost an arm and leg. Supports can be done cheaply, I had a great isolation shelf made from a piece of slate, I then glued 3 feet to it. My cables and supports don't get messed about with now. There are always improvement to the equipment, I'm messing around with the speakers currently and have fallen for a particular phono stage. The differences from these bits of kit are fundamental.
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    Thanks for the resurrection Chris.

    The main thrust of my original piece was that I see way too many folks buying new kit and dismissing it out of hand before they explore all the ways in which it interacts with the other system components, the cabling used both interconnects and mains cables and what it sits on.

    I think too many assume that their first effort is the definitive one and give up at that and then move a piece on at a loss. My experience suggests that quite often we have to really push the boat out to explore all the pluses and minuses of a product new to our system.

    There is also the strong possibility that because we don't push things we can also miss the fact that an item sitting in our system working away might actually offer more if only we tried a few new things with it.

    Its a question of having an open mind and never assuming that the journey is over because quite often its not.


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