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    My mate Tony came over to hear the Lancasters and we tinkered a bit before he suggested that I move the speakers as far apart as possible in my room. To my surprise, that made quite a difference - the Lancasters still have a bit of that 'plodding' character, but it's reduced and there is a much better soundstage and more believable top end. So, I have spent the last few hours carefully dismantling the system, dusting and hoovering everything, and rearranging the rack, furniture etc. To be fair, it was worth it for the Spring Clean!

    So, the next step is to make up some replacement crossovers and to rewire the speakers internally. I am trying to find out the optimum value of the main HF section inductor, but all the other bits are reasonably inexpensive from Falcon Acoustics.

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    Makes me want to get some 15" hpd's.

    Hopefully one day.
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    I've now ordered the parts from Falcon Acoustics for a pair of new crossovers for the Lancasters, so things are moving on! To keep costs down, the main LF section series inductor is a high-power iron-dust cored component, which prior experience tells me is usually nice sounding, with very good dynamics. The HF section inductors are air-cored. Capacitors are Claritycap ESA, chosen more for their modest cost than anything else; resistors are cheapo wirewounds, which may get changed for something more exotic if the overall voicing etc is OK with the values chosen. Internal wiring will use Audio Note AN-D, again largely because of its modest cost.

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    The Clarity Caps are very good, regardless of cost IMHO.

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    Nice one, Hugo. You've done the right thing, mate. Best to choose modest priced components for the crossovers to see whether you can get the voicing right first, before splashing out on more expensive ones.

    However, what you've bought is more than decent, so I'm expecting the results to be pretty good and for there to be a significant sonic improvement

    Good luck and keep us posted

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    Just found these 12 inch in Lancasters

    http://www.hifiworks.co.uk/speaker5.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonboy View Post
    Just found these 12 inch in Lancasters

    http://www.hifiworks.co.uk/speaker5.htm
    Hi

    Not sure if there a matching pair though because one has terminals and one dosent

    although most of the lancasters wernt a matching pair

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    I know that I paid around the going rate for my 15" Lancasters, but these 12" ones do look a tad underpriced, particularly when you see what Lancs fitted with HPD drivers are going for at HiFi Do in Japan

    If the drivers are good, then someone should snap these !2" Lancasters up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuggie View Post
    I know that I paid around the going rate for my 15" Lancasters, but these 12" ones do look a tad underpriced, particularly when you see what Lancs fitted with HPD drivers are going for at HiFi Do in Japan

    If the drivers are good, then someone should snap these !2" Lancasters up!
    I paid GBP 1130 for my Lancasters so I think I got a god deal on them. Naturally the crossover needs to be seviced so I am curious about Shuggies findings. I also plan to replace the internal wire to AN or Kondo. I would prefer the Kondo but they are quite expensive so it would be a bit risky (financially) to experiment with them.
    First I am going to upgrade the crossover, then the internal wiring.
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    A photo of the crossover of my Lancasters.
    The 16uF capacitor measures 22,6uF while the 6,8uF measures 7,6uF.
    I have an old ELNA capacitor that I took out from another crossover. It supposed to be 10uF but now it measures 16,4 uF so I was thinking to put it into the Tannoy crossover.
    Do you think it is a good idea or with age it will have to be replaced again because its value will go upper again?
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    Turntable: fully restored Sony PS-X9 with PUA-9 tonearm

    SUTs: Dynavector DV-6A, Nagatron, Cotter and 72Audio

    Cartridges: too many to list all... BARCO/EMT HSD6, ELAC EMC v.d.Hul (dual layer coil former), Onlife Research (Dynavector) OMC-22, Fidelity Research FR-1MK3F, Sony XL-55Pro

    Tape Deck: Denon DR-M44HX

    Reel to reel: Lyrec Frida mk1 and mk2

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    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Warwick cabinets with modified crossovers

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