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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisbee View Post
    Dynobot,

    ....

    But unless I missed it you don't say which DAC etc you were listening to, or perhps this choice was independent of the rest of your audio chain..

    Although Im a dedicated Linux user I still have not built a separate "audio computer", yet I lean towards an Atom powered device or using an embedded sytesm like one of the ALIX m/boards combined with VoaygeMPD linux. Talking of which have you ever seen this website?

    http://kubotayo.web.fc2.com/voyagempd.html

    It includes some patches for MPD itself to make further use of real time capabilities. I've made no use of these myslef yet so can't say if they are effective. But they are accompanied by a detailed description.

    One last question, I wonder if you had ever tried the switch from ALSA to OSS4? Sadly, my DAC's USB connection does not function although recognised in OSS4 , but my Envy24HT card works OK.
    Hi Krisbee,

    Thank you for the comment about my web site...

    About the Dac[s] I used for the comparison between operating systems. Well the comparison went on over a very long period of time. My first computer audio machine was a Windows XP machine which I reduced down to the bare-bones and ran Foobar with Otachans plugins. I compared Winamp and Foobar a lot back then and starting getting interested in Linux audio. At that time my Dac was Creative Soundblaster card which soon got replaced by a Lavry DA10 Dac. The rest of my system consisted of an Aragon 8008BB amp and an Anthem Pre2L preamp with my Dynaudio speakers. I probably spent a good year trying everything I could to make both Linux and Windows sound as best as possible. Since then I have gone through a lot of Dacs if you see my web site. With each new Dac I go back and compare so I would say the Dac[s] I used for my final write up was every Dac I have owned and generally speaking I ended up with the results I posted about.

    Yes I have read the web site you mentioned, its a very very good wed site. BTW, those paths are pretty much the same thing Soundcheck is doing with his TT2.0 Squeezebox mod.

    No I have never tried OSS4 but I might give it a shot, thanks for telling me about it. Up until now I was strictly ALSA.

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    it looks too technical for me, is there are daftee's version of how to make the alterations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mains Cables R Us View Post
    it looks too technical for me, is there are daftee's version of how to make the alterations?
    I have a SB touch connected to a dacmagic and my nas in another room connected to my pc and router with ethernet cables

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    i put my sb ip address in and it says network connection refused, help please

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    Hi David,

    To follow these soft modification instructions, you first need to establish secure communication between your Touch and your other networked devices. This is achieved by using a SSH (secure shell) protocol. Until you tell it otherwise, your Touch will refuse to allow a third party to access its instruction set.

    Go to the Settings menu on your Squeezebox Touch.
    Go to Advanced.
    Go to Remote Login.
    Select Enable SSH.

    You can now use the WinSCP client on your computer to edit the Touch firmware. Good luck!
    Last edited by camtwister; 16-08-2011 at 20:20.
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    network error...connection time out is all I get...gggrrhhhhhh

    I did the settings on the SB

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    OK - next two things to check.

    - When you enable SSH on your SB, does the IP address given to you by the Touch on screen, match the IP address entered into WinSCP? Check that you are using the root username, 1234 password and port 22.
    Reboot your SB before proceeding.

    - Go to the menu tree on the left-hand-side of the WinSCP window.
    Select Connection.
    In the Timeout box, increase the Server response timeout to 120 seconds from 15 seconds.

    Give that a go...
    Johnny Dodgem.

    Cartridges vintage MMs including Pickering xsv-4000/xsv-3000 : Stanton 881s/D81 : AT140LC/VMN40ML
    Spinners hot rod 1210 (Jelco 750D, Origami, Ammonite, Longdog, Vantage, Achromats) : Pye G63 & Garrard AT6 : Two full custom Lencos : Kenwood KD-650D
    Streaming Qobuz : BluOS & Node2 (Fidelity Audio modified) : RME ADI-2 DAC
    Pre-amps Tron Seven (GT modified) : Conrad Johnson EV1 : Croft Micro 25 : Decware ZStage
    Power Amps PrimaLuna ProLogue 5 (KT120) : PrimaLuna ProLogue 4 (KT77)
    Speakers The Edingdale : Meadowlark Hot Rod Shearwater
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    Just want to endorse Gazjam's enthusiasm for this mod and to thank you, Ed, for making the process available and for the simple instructions to apply it.

    The Sbooster makes a dramatic difference but much like the old X10D buffer, it seems to give with one hand and take with the other, so you have a different presentation that is not necessarily "better" overall but could still be preferred, depending on the rest of your system and personal flavour you prefer.

    This mod is fascinating in that you can adjust the settings to match your system, so I can see a lot more people being happy with the result. Being able to make the changes while listening is quite enlightening in terms of judging the effects and takes away the normal A/B comparison issues.

    I only applied it last night and I think you need to live with a given setting for a while to get an average, because it's easy to fine tune one album/ production then change to another and start tweaking again

    And the effect? Well, primarily think of it as a treble control or a sharpening tool in a photo manipulation program. It is possible to increase detail and leading edge definition to excess - beyond a balance with other frequencies or other considerations. Personally the greatest gain for me is the reduction in the graininess which the standard touch suffers from. The presentation is more refined and the soundstage cleaner (lower background noise?). I have some initial reservations about the effect on the bass but I need more time on this one. The increased inner detail highlights a musicians technique, the diction of a vocalist (Paulo Nutini sounded very Scottish and Melody Gardot had sticky lipgloss ) but I'm thinking this is at the expense of an holistic rightness; with Luis Salinas, before my attention seemed drawn to the tone of his solo acoustic guitar, the reverberation of the wooden body, the rattle of the obviously metal strings and the creaking of his leather guitar strap - all elements that were creating a quite solid illusion of a real person and a real instrument. Now I seem focused on the finger slides, the plectrum technique, the attack and decay of each note.

    Now if I can just find that magic number that balances the two.....

    Unreservedly recommended as worth the little time and effort to experiment.
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  9. #39
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    Question Any Experience?

    Hi Folks,
    Hope no one minds m hanging this on the back of this thread but has any one any knowldge or experience of this player: -

    http://www.signalyst.com/consumer.html

    To a numptie like me it seems to have things going for it but what do I know?
    Any response appreciated.
    Dave.
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    Power: Belkin PF40, Custom.hifi.cables Hydra and DC PSUs.
    Sources: Self built HTPC with Xonar ST sound card, NAD T585 multi disc player, Sony BDP-S350, Squeezebox Touch, Techncs SL1210 (mod'd) + Nagaoka MP30, Thomson Sky HD box.
    Amps etc.: 2 x Mini-T amps, MF-X10D Valve buffer clone, StanDAC 7520/Caiman (mod'd).
    Speakers: Mission 774s with added super tweeters
    Cables: best I can afford and likely to change except Homar's RF attenuated co-ax's and Mark Grant USB and HDMI cables. I also like silver i/cs and speaker cable.

  10. #40
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    These are nice mods Ed !

    I guess an executable, with some "recommended" and a "revert to the factory" values could be also possible ?

    Oh, and btw, how would these mods work if you disable neither WLAN nor samba ?
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