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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Looks good.
    How does it sound ?
    Good question

    It sounds so clean and crystal clear ! Its like a layer of grunge and distortion has been removed , Richard checked my 309/precept set up and all that was needed was a slight change to the VTA , its like everything has snapped into focus , now i must admit i was struggling with 309/precept combo but now it all seems to be working with what i guess i would describe as synergy !

    There is one small snag though , to get the full benefit of this synergy with the bearing and platter , I'm going to have to invest in Richard's PSU !

    I can do some needle drops but a bit more listening 1st
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    It sounds so clean and crystal clear ! Its like a layer of grunge and distortion has been removed ...
    That sounds very promising

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Richard checked my 309/precept set up and all that was needed was a slight change to the VTA , its like everything has snapped into focus , now i must admit i was struggling with 309/precept combo but now it all seems to be working with what i guess i would describe as synergy !
    The dreaded setup - the most miniscule of adjustments sometimes make all the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    There is one small snag though , to get the full benefit of this synergy with the bearing and platter , I'm going to have to invest in Richard's PSU !

    I can do some needle drops but a bit more listening 1st
    Onward and upward mate - sounds like it's properly coming back together again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    That sounds very promising



    The dreaded setup - the most miniscule of adjustments sometimes make all the difference



    Onward and upward mate - sounds like it's properly coming back together again
    Thanks Chris

    It is and to anyone who thinks the Techy ain't "musical" well they've just not heard it properly sorted , it should if set up right be very musical even in stock form , my pal John who has never owned or used a DD was tapping his feet along to the "Black SL10" and he's no linnie either , though he did have one once ! He has a very nice Voyd and was certainly surprised by how good both the linear tracker's sounded , he will be back for a listen to my 1210.

    The "precept" now seems to make sense as its overall sound and balance is remarkably similar to the P205mk4 ! And this is the reason why Richard suggested it , as I'm really quite taken by this vintage classic
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    My new Vantage Audio platter , i rather like it

    Sorry about the dust wifey keeps telling me off .



    Wow, that looks well cool Chris- congrats
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    Chris, looks beaut mate. Did Richard of VA paint the outer rim of the platter black, eliminating the shiny strobe dots, if so are there other colour options to go for... just curious ?

    Would VA's platter mod work synergistically with the MN bearing... curious again?

    What reiteration of the TimeStep PSU are you using, the standard one or the HE one as I'm not clear which one you intend 'binning'?

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    Thanks guys , yes it is black ! Looks quite cool don't you think ?

    I think if you have the MN bearing , there is no reason why it won't work , but i really can't say for sure.

    I have the standard TS psu at present , i must say though Ron , its probably unwise to mix different upgrades from the main Techy modders that are around at present.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    That's pretty crackin'. I think the only thing I would do differently is keep the original look of the strobe dots, as I have the "silver" decks.

    What cartridge is that?
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    Thanks Biff

    Yes if you have the 1200 , i think the silver dots would look better.

    The cartridge is the Audio Technica "Precept" fitted with a 220EX stylus , its a vintage cartridge from the early 80's , only sold in north America !

    Hence why hardly anybody round here has heard of it , its very similar in sonics to some of the vintage Technics cartridges I'm familiar with .
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    Looks great, Chris - well done! I wish you many happy hours of quality music-listening

    Richard obviously knows his stuff, and so AoS and I are happy to endorse and promote Vantage Audio Technics T/T modifications.

    Like I've always said, choice is good, and anything that keeps the Techy up-to-date and relevant, in the 'limelight', so to speak, and perhaps people from buying the usual boring (and in many ways inferior) 'elastic band' T/T efforts, is fine with me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Looks great, Chris - well done! I wish you many happy hours of quality music-listening

    Richard obviously knows his stuff, and so AoS and I are happy to endorse and promote Vantage Audio Technics T/T modifications.

    Like I've always said, choice is good, and anything that keeps the Techy up-to-date and relevant, in the 'limelight', so to speak, and perhaps people from buying the usual boring (and in many ways inferior) 'elastic band' T/T efforts, is fine with me!

    Marco.
    Thanks Marco

    I'm glad i've stuck with it and not thrown in the towel ! That did cross my mind though , but very briefly , i may as well tell you Marco about that item I'm lusting after ! Its Richard's workshop reference psu , a fairly plain but very large box , about 3 times the size of the TS psu , and Richard plugged it in using TS connector and well erm , it was a bit good .

    But getting back to the platter ! There is something going on underneath as well and ties in with bearing upgrade , Richard kept mentioning constrained layer damping , and regarding "test resuts" he claims his bearing as being 2db better than the oem !

    If anyone wants this verified then i urge you to contact the man himself.
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