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  1. #261
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    Hi Alfie,

    I don't believe I have been protesting to much at all! I just seemed to be a single member fighting from the opposite corner! Perhaps if anything, I was protesting to well....
    Lol... It's got nothing to do with that, dude.

    What I was referring to was your overuse of exclamation marks (count how many were used in your main post earlier I was referring to), which made it look like you were shouting and losing your rag, and that what you were writing was more of a rant, than you calmly, but robustly, expressing your legitimate opinion.

    Therefore, you may wish to use less exclamation marks when making your point in future!!!!!!!!!!!! (note the deliberate overuse of those bad boys)

    As to the TOLERANCE AND RESPECT bit I guess what will be will be! There is to be some changes I believe on the Wam, but after seeing who some of the newly appointed Mods are I expect very little change towards the ethos as it is now! IMO that is a good thing, as it's what makes the Wam different to here & I like the choice!
    Fair enough, but Sodders appointed as a mod? Good grief!

    That's akin to appointing Colonel Gaddafi as an ambassador for peace in the Middle East!!

    And let's not forget that this is the chap too who, completely unprovoked, recently referred to AoS members as "halfwits" (or was it "quarter-wits"?) - hilarious as it was at the time!

    Oh dear Frank, I can see the C**t word being just as a big a part of the Wam as ever, now Sodders is one of the new Mods. It's only a word though & was freely used in victorian times, It's a modern repulsion some have against it.
    Are you married, Alfie, or do you have a female partner? If so, I'd be curious to know her views on the justifiable use of the word 'cunt' in everyday dialogue.....

    I hope there is a change to how new members are treated & I think some of the new mods will help in this way, but I fear the new members will want to see what's in the private section & there the Wam will be the Wam!
    Yes indeed, but here's the million Dollar question.........

    Why can't the Wam forum have the same ethos and vibe as does the Scalford Hall 'Pie Show', where everyone, no matter their views on hi-fi, is welcomed with open arms and meets up and has a good time, in the true spirit of camaraderie, without hardly a bad word being exchanged??

    Why is the vibe on the forum so very different, certainly at least to those who don't share the natives desire to indulge in pubescent and offensive, sorry, 'humorous', behaviour?

    I'd like you to give some serious consideration to the glaring dichotomy that exists, as I've outlined above - why that is so, and most importantly, what can be done about it.

    I am genuinely interested in helping Wigwam become a friendlier place, as I do think that it has something important, and clearly popular, to offer to the UK audio community

    Marco.
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  2. #262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Fair enough, but Sodders appointed as a mod? Good grief!

    That's akin to appointing Colonel Gaddafi as an ambassador for peace in the Middle East!!

    Marco.
    Ah the famous Sodders (aka Earl of Sodbury). I have fond memories of him. I posted about on line sales and how ebay was cornering a big share of the market (posted over four years ago), to be attacked as is ritual with new members posting about something of real interest. It morphed into the *new* industry as I see it including me recommending forums organising Bake-Off Shows to be subject to the ritual on-line gang rape. After a few posts Sodders appears saying "sorry I am late joining in this thread dealing with this idiot (or words to that effect) as I was over the local golf course shagging a middle aged lorry driver", well all the gang fell about laughing thinking it was hilarious. Where I was just scratching my head and was convinced for about two years he really was gay along with half the rest of them as they talk about it so much. I also remember thinking Bake-Off's were gay events as well as audio events due to all the homosexual banter about staying the night. BUT now I am given to understand it is all part of the humour.

    How many other people take them seriously, and also what part of the forum are we supposed to take seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Bunsen Honeydew View Post
    Ah the famous Sodders (aka Earl of Sodbury). I have fond memories of him. I posted about on line sales and how ebay was cornering a big share of the market (posted over four years ago), to be attacked as is ritual with new members posting about something of real interest. It morphed into the *new* industry as I see it including me recommending forums organising Bake-Off Shows to be subject to the ritual on-line gang rape. After a few posts Sodders appears saying "sorry I am late joining in this thread dealing with this idiot (or words to that effect) as I was over the local golf course shagging a middle aged lorry driver", well all the gang fell about laughing thinking it was hilarious. Where I was just scratching my head and was convinced for about two years he really was gay along with half the rest of them as they talk about it so much. I also remember thinking Bake-Off's were gay events as well as audio events due to all the homosexual banter about staying the night. BUT now I am given to understand it is all part of the humour.

    How many other people take them seriously, and also what part of the forum are we supposed to take seriously.
    I guess we now know the full story - Richard couldn't contain his disappointment and has been a bitter man ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Bunsen Honeydew View Post
    How many other people take them seriously, and also what part of the forum are we supposed to take seriously.
    Anyone who takes any part of any hifi forum seriously needs to get a grip.

  5. #265
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    Richard,

    I think that's the problem with 'in jokes' on forums, which only the regulars will appreciate and relate to.

    It's the same here with me when I refer to 'shlipping into a wee frock', or whatever - I'm not REALLY doing it (well, at least only on a Sunday ) - it is simply something I enjoy laughing at with those who I know also find it funny!

    That aside, I do understand where you're coming from, but can we please concentrate less on past events on Wigwam involving you, and more on the present situation, and how we can help matters.

    For instance, what's your view on the question I asked Alfie? Why is Wigwam, the forum, so different in its outlook and vibe from Wigwam in its bake-off format, such as at Scalford Hall?

    Marco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    I guess we now know the full story - Richard couldn't contain his disappointment and has been a bitter man ever since.


    Not as disappointed as I was, dahling, swimming through the sloppy seconds!!

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Richard,

    I think that's the problem with 'in jokes' on forums, which only the regulars will appreciate and relate to.

    It's the same here with me when I refer to 'shlipping into a wee frock', or whatever -
    I'm not REALLY doing it (well, at least only on a Sunday
    ) - it is simply something I enjoy laughing at with those who I know also find it funny!

    That aside, I do understand where you're coming from, but can we please concentrate less on past events on Wigwam involving you, and more on the present situation, and how we can help matters.

    For instance, what's your view on the question I asked Alfie? Why is Wigwam, the forum, so different in its outlook and vibe from Wigwam in its bake-off format, such as at Scalford Hall?

    Marco.
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    I HAVE TO SAY, I ALWAYS PREFERED YOU IN YOUR LEMON TOU TOU, WITH THE GREEN SLINGBACKS
    Shut it, you BIATCH - you're only jealous because the last time you borrowed them, you fell on your arse doing the 'Birdie Dance' at Betty's birthday party and flashed your floral bloomers at everyone...!!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #269
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    Hi Marco,

    I will answer your questions shortly & try not to use to many exclamation marks!!!!!

    It wasn't a rant though, you would know if I got angry as I'm one of those nice placid types that only explode very very occasionally, but you know when I do I always thought THIS WAS SHOUTING in forum life?

    Anyway could you please explain how to split quotes to answer each section separately it makes more sense that way.
    alfie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Shut it, you BIATCH - you're only jealous because the last time you borrowed them, you fell on your arse doing the 'Birdie Dance' at Betty's birthday party and flashed your floral bloomers at everyone...!!

    Marco.
    YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER MENTION THAT AGAIN! Anyway, i stuck the heel back with super glue...
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