Goodbye HiFi Wigwam

[Jac Hawk]

I do agree that perhaps it should have an over 18 declaration! Some threads are marked as 'not suitable to be open around children or at work' & that perhaps helps a little. I would think though that people supervise there children while on the internet or at least have filters in place!

Perhaps the Wam is juvenile, could be all us men are having a mid-life crisis & are trying to hang to our youth But you either choose to read the forum or you choose not to! If you don't like it don't read it

But why the need to use language only fit for the gutter when talking about HIFI Ok you may need to use the odd colourful metaphor to show your feelings on a subject, i do on the AoS, but at the WAM they really did go way way too far

[Dr Bunsen Honeydew]

Frank, the Wam is owned by James! Just as AoS is owned by Marco! We are just their guests, If need be either can ban me, I can't ban them & neither can any of the membership! It is their choice on what happens on their forum James pulling the plug pretty much tells you this!!!

As you say you visit a spit & sawdust pub when you want that expierence & that sort of banter! So why should forums be different? you visit the one or ones that fit the expierence you are looking for!

If you don't like the spit & sawdust pub then don't visit! I am though old enough to make my own choice which pub I visit & sometimes the Wam fits!

The problem is it is not an enclosed private area like pub is, we are talking about a public forum with access from anyone who has a computer whether you are member or not. If you want to make that comparison then make the forum content only viewable when you join.

[hifinutt]

Any forum is owned by the membership and I don't ever recall being asked if I found words like "C*UNT" being displayed in the largest font, in bold and a bright red colour splattered across my screen. I and many others repeatedly asked for just this one word to be kept off limits because my wife who was also an active member in the early days found it deeply offensive, plus other members were very concerned about their wives and children looking over their shoulders at the screen looking at such language. At the end of the day it was an open public forum and that means you have to be aware that "anything goes" is only appropriate when it is a closed membership organisation where the public are kept away.

yes totally agree frank

[Jac Hawk]

It didn't work because of a few things, Wigwam refused to advertise, and the member were downright rude about it as they saw it as some sort of rip-off event so they made trouble for it on any forum they could. BUT the point is that Scalford is not a unique event, they could be organised in every major centre of population, the way commercial Hi-Fi Shows used to be and in some case still are. AND as they die (and they will) so the hobbyist / enthusiast will take up the reigns as is now happening in forums about other industry information aspects. Also I refuse to lie down when being attacked and not defended as should be by forum AUP so I have a bad rep with some and have upset and alienated some people, as has continued here a little. ANYWAY everyone who attended sang the praises of the format (different to Scalford) and the way the show informed and helped people.

http://thelondonbakeoffshow.110mb.com/

Scalford doesn't, and shouldn't have a monopoly, I for one was asking for them at least two years before the first year of Scalford and was largely shouted down, so we come full circle and the same people now think the idea is theirs and unique If you are keen then go out find a hotel in the area you want and then come here with costing and see what the members think. But one forum is not enough, other will have to allow promotion.

I could see this being done in all major population centres - London conurbation, W Midland conurbation, E Midland conurbation, Liverpool / Manchester conurbation, W Yorkshire conurbation and Glasgow. Even mini ones like extended bake-off in local hotel in less populated areas can be organised - the more the merrier. You just cut the cloth to fit the event. If I am toooo controversial to make it work I would happily duck out of it.

Wasn't really interested about your disagreements with other sites and their members, the point i was trying to make is that a major enthusiasts
event is best placed where people from all over, and not just the south east would consider attending, that's why i said in the Midlands.

[wee tam]

Were else in the uk can you see/hear hi fi from the 50s upto todays offering.

As for easy to organise from the people i've spoke to it was a LOT of work.

+ 1 and if it was that easy , where is the a o s pie fi being held ?

[chelsea]

But why the need to use language only fit for the gutter when talking about HIFI Ok you may need to use the odd colourful metaphor to show your feelings on a subject, i do on the AoS, but at the WAM they really did go way way too far

I think most swearing was done in the pub/car park section and not the hifi/music section.

I don't get offended by swearing but of course some people do.

[loosend]

I would like to say (being a mod on another forum myself) tAos is very well run place to be involved with, we pride our forum on the quality of it's members and the good nature of its posts, we have very few issues and any are deLt with appropriately and behind the scenes as not to effect the structure of the forum and the morals we like to implement from all who post.
It's nice to be able to give praise where praise is due!

So to Marco and the other mods along with the members here who are all good guys from my experience, I just wanted to commend u all on making this forum very welcoming and interesting

[alfie2902]

The problem is it is not an enclosed private area like pub is, we are talking about a public forum with access from anyone who has a computer whether you are member or not. If you want to make that comparison then make the forum content only viewable when you join.

Richard, I don't own the forum so don't have that power, none of the membership does, as you well know!

I wouldn't have a problem with a member only viewable forum, but that would be the owners choice again!

[Dr Bunsen Honeydew]

+ 1 and if it was that easy , where is the a o s pie fi being held ?

Where ever the membership wants it held, or if a member wants to try and find a hotel, cost it, and put it up as a proposition. Then ask for a volunteer to sponsor it who has a card credit with the adequate credit, then the membership back it up and support it - simples!

[Dr Bunsen Honeydew]

Richard, I don't own the forum so don't have that power, none of the membership does, as you well know!

I wouldn't have a problem with a member only viewable forum, but that would be the owners choice again!

Well it seems to me that the content at Wigwam, which such a large number of people here object to, makes it a requisite. Then they can all do and say what they want to each other without offending anyone else. Plus people have to make an effort to walk through the door, so if they don't like it, then tough.