Got it, Dominic. I'll be swinging some business your way in due courseOriginally Posted by Dominic Harper
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Got it, Dominic. I'll be swinging some business your way in due course
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Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
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Lol - defo, mate, and that may indeed be the case.I think Dave could possibly prefer the 'G900IGC' like i did.Superb tracking..All people have different ears/preferences tho.
But when one person sees black and the other white (that level of difference), there's ususally an explanation which goes beyond different ears and preferences.
If Dave lived nearer, we could probably put all this to bed in one listening session!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Dave did say the G800 was tracking at 2.75. This is simply too high and would have sat on the dynamics. 2.5 is optimal for the original conical version. The 'E'
version would be even lower.
Treble will also break up with overloaded suspension, which would also explain his findings.
I don't post things for the sake of it.
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2.5g causes sat on dynamics here and a sense of vagueness. I did try this - honest... I agree the 800E needs around 1.5 to 1.75g and the Super E around 1.25g..
I do indeed very much like the memories I have of the 900IGC..
I'd like to try a vintage 1.5 - 2g tracking big bodies ADC to see if my hunch is correct. I LOVE the XLM's I have, together with the ZLM and descendant Sonus Blue..
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
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hi dom,haven't forgot about sending you my cart for re-tip just been busy lately,will probaly send in the next couple of weeks,
Darren
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No problem Darren.just send me an email to let me know when your sending it
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Just had another tweak-up and listen to the G800 as I have it. I think I may have tamed the extreme treble a little and the tonal balance doesn't seem quite as "odd" as it did before. The main issue is now in the bass - track at 2.5g and it distorts (I'm playing a favourite old Seventh Wave album track "Only The Beginning" which was a classic Decca Gull Records pressing from the mid 70's (the very first cut of the forst 'Enid" LP is similar in sonics). Increase to 2.75 and it's much better. This track NEEDS an elliptical or fine-line tip to sound clean in the treble though, which could be due to groove wear by now. I'm sure there must be a G800E stylus around somewhere...
HOWEVER, and this is important, there are reports over the web about the terrible quality control on Goldring syli from this period, diamond chips falling off amd all sorts, so it may be better to get a Jico elliptical to start with and see how that sounds...
At least it's got me playing and thinking eh?
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
Hi Dom. I stopped following this thread for a while and now I've rediscovered it I'm wondering what little extra delights you might be able to coax out of my G900IGC?
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Hi Dave, I can certainly have a look at it for you. I'm not familiar with the 900 so it will be good to see it in the flesh. Cantilever and tip replacement would be a logical step, or just fit a new tip to the original cantilever if you wish.
Drop me an email if you like.
Dom
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