As the maker of the original comment in the other thread, I have to say that I have absolutely no problem with anyone spending as much as they want on whatever they want, if they are happy with their purchase. I know I'm as guilty as the next person of occasionally spending a certain amount on something when something cheaper would do the job and, in this case, £20 certainly isn't breaking the bank.
You've got to admit, though, it does look "uncannily similar" to other brushes available!
Oh, and I stand by my comments regarding the Furutech makeup brush...![]()
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I have the generic designed brush mentioned here...but I found this brush to be more effective in removing dust and as well as static, paid £50.00 for it when it was on sale:
http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8909
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Hi Adam,
And I've already explained why that's likely the case about three times, but people seem to be selectively ignoring it!!As the maker of the original comment in the other thread, I have to say that I have absolutely no problem with anyone spending as much as they want on whatever they want, if they are happy with their purchase. I know I'm as guilty as the next person of occasionally spending a certain amount on something when something cheaper would do the job and, in this case, £20 certainly isn't breaking the bank.
You've got to admit, though, it does look "uncannily similar" to other brushes available!![]()
Do I have to type it in big bold red letters before folk will pay attention??
Lol... That one's more difficult to justify. In terms of material value, it's undoubtedly poor, but in terms of its effectiveness at removing and reducing static build-up on records, for me, it's worth every penny - as nothing else I've used on the market gets even close to doing as good a job!Oh, and I stand by my comments regarding the Furutech makeup brush...![]()
If you're really serious about keeping your records in pristine condition and ready to achieve the highest fidelity during playback, then for me, the Furutech brush is a must. Its SOLE purpose is static removal. I don't use it for actually cleaning records. The bristles are too soft to do a proper job.
View the Furutech brush as part of a meticulous record care programme. All my records, new and old, receive the following treatment when purchased:
1) Thorough cleaning on the VPI RCM (I usually spend a minimum of five minutes cleaning both sides of each record). New records are cleaned simply to remove mould release agent, dust and static - the latter which the usual supplied scratchy and horrible white paper record sleeves help not one iota.
2) Then when totally dry, both sides of the record are brushed with the Furutech, whilst being spun round on the VPI, to remove any built-up static from the cleaning process.
3) Just to make sure, I then give both sides of the record a quick zap with a Milty Zerostat gun.
4) The shining clean, pristine, static-free record is then popped inside a Nagaoka anti-static sleeve, ready to use.
5) Before playing, I spin the record on the platter and brush it with the Furutech brush, to remove any slight static build up, as a result of removing the record from its sleeve, so I know that I have a squeaky-clean, totally static-free record, ready for playing!
The result is then the most noise-free vinyl you'll ever hear, virtually as silent during playback of music, as a CD. And that's the sort of standard I demand!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
what you need to do is buy a cheap brush off ebay and the blue horizon then do a side by side comparison, and be honest with yourself, if the blue horizon is better, then it's better, and all they have accomplished by using generic parts is give the doubters a reason not to buy it.
I await Marco's report on it's quality and effectiveness with baited breath and 20 quid literally burning a hole in my pocket.
As the late Colonel Sanders once said
"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken!!"
Let's be honest with ourselves here. If what you need is a gadget to push dust around your records and flick some around the lip onto the underside of the record then a carbon fibre brush is just the ticket. ;-)
If however you want to clean the dust, grime, grunge, finger prints and mythical release agent from your vinyl then you need to buy yourselves a record cleaning machine.
There is of course the middle road that lies in between these two extremes of price and ease of use. Anti static record sleeves, if you aren't use polylined sleeves or better, then why bother with a brush or RCM your records will never ever be clean.
So start saving, you need all three, brush, polysleeves and RCM..
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I bought a different type of thing from an hi-fi show in the mid 80's (i can't for the life of me remember it's name) It was about four inch diameter more like rough red velvet powder puff, cream moulded top with finger grip, it was in a cream circular plastic container with clear plastic dome lid cost quite a bit & was brilliant better than the carbon fibre brush.
Call me strange but I just put them on the turntable and listen to them. Pops and all.
I don't have a problem with the odd crackle and its few and far between believe you me.
That's part of the beauty of vinyl for me. The mutual symbiosis if you like.
But hey i'm weird.
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Through - Croft Micro 25 RS LS, power R monoblocks, RIAA R. Ortofon ST-80 SE SUT.
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