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  1. #71
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    The Haufe capsules are built in the phono imput of EMT (950, 948,938), to be precise model T-890 (1:10) and T-451 (1:7).
    Here you find the data sheets of all the Haufe capsules
    http://audio.kubarth.com/rundfunk/index.cgi
    This is the Haufe site http://www.haufe-uebertrager.de/html/profil.html
    Some other good capsules are Amplino TM3 or Lundahl LL9206 (http://www.kandkaudio.com/mccartsetup.html).
    On the german AAA-Forum was a great talk about auditorium 23 and the Haufe capsules because for some the price of the first was too high related to these built in capsules. Mr. Aschenbrenner's success in Germany (import of Shindo and Verdier and self designed speaker, cables and transformers) created lot of envies, as latin say "nemo profeta in patria!" and that's why he sells in the US very well!

    Jensen publishes even a good Moving Coil Cartridges/Transformers Table to select the right step up http://www.jensen-transformers.com/mc.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Historicus View Post
    The Haufe capsules are built in the phono imput of EMT (950, 948,938), to be precise model T-890 (1:10) and T-451 (1:7).
    Here you find the data sheets of all the Haufe capsules
    http://audio.kubarth.com/rundfunk/index.cgi
    This is the Haufe site http://www.haufe-uebertrager.de/html/profil.html
    Some other good capsules are Amplino TM3 or Lundahl LL9206 (http://www.kandkaudio.com/mccartsetup.html).
    On the german AAA-Forum was a great talk about auditorium 23 and the Haufe capsules because for some the price of the first was too high related to these built in capsules. Mr. Aschenbrenner's success in Germany (import of Shindo and Verdier and self designed speaker, cables and transformers) created lot of envies, as latin say "nemo profeta in patria!" and that's why he sells in the US very well!

    Jensen publishes even a good Moving Coil Cartridges/Transformers Table to select the right step up http://www.jensen-transformers.com/mc.html
    I don't speak german so I'm not really sure if it's still possible to buy these transformers from Haufe. I'm happy with my Cinemags but I wouldn't mind seeing what the Auditorium 23 is all about on the cheap.
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Are you any good with a soldering iron then, Dave?

    This is useful information for anyone into D.I.Y because the reason the A23 sounds so good is because the transformers match the DL-103, 'R' or 'Pro' so well.

    Marco.
    Marco, if you buy the right RCA jacks you don't even need to solder.

  4. #74
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    IŽve emailed Haufe (in English) about the best way to get hold of a pair. If I get any joy, IŽll let you know.
    Chris

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    Nice one, Chris. Keep us posted

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Assuming I manage to source these trannies, is there any way I might incorporate a balance control in the box - my Sugden a21Se doesnŽt provide balance and I am sick and tired of my room/decor induced off centre image. I donŽt doubt this is a bit off-track but is it possible using a top notch potentiometer somehow or am I way out of line.

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    Marco,
    you have a pm.

  8. #78
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    Hi Chris,

    Got it - thanks

    I've had friends round today so been a bit busy

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #79
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    Default Why Denon AU-320 sounds average (or bad:))

    I was quite enthusiastic when I've managed to source a NOS AU-320 SUT last year to use it with plain 103. However it turned out there was no competition with a built in trannies in EAR 864 I owned, also with EAR 834P which is my temporary solution (not sure if I would agree with so much raving about it).

    I'm currently testing a rather wonderful sounding RIAA made by a local designer, fully valved (5Y3 rect., ECC82 & 83) which is much more engaging and natural sounding than stock 834P.

    However it's again that AU-320 is underperforming - at 40 ohm setting there's hardly any serious bass, slam & dynamic.

    It makes me wonder if AU-320 is actually made for a 14ohm 103R, and not for a 40 ohm 103, though it seems that lots of Cinemag users have lots of joy at 37.5 ohm primary wiring.

    Is there any kosher way how to lower an impedance of the 103 that's seen by the windings?

    Or should I give it up - could be it's just a bad product and that's it.

    Thanks for your input.

    PS. forgot to add, current testings are done on 1210, 3g extra weight on a stock headshell (tomorrow i'm putting 5g), a diff. mat and M6 (?) screws instead of its stock rubber feet. my stabi 2/stogi is still being overhauled...
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    Loading for MC cartridges can be a complex matter (unlike MM's which are designed for a 47K load). Normally, correct loading is achieved by a combination of the step up transformer and the loading resistor on the input of the phono stage. An alternative is to load the primary with the required value instead. There is some information on this on these threads from the World Designs Forum.

    http://www.wduk.worldomain.net/forum...rimary+loading

    http://www.wduk.worldomain.net/forum...ead.php?t=2442

    In practice it may be worth experimenting with a number of values of load to find what works best for you.
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