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  1. #511
    Join Date: Sep 2008

    Location: San Diego, CA

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    I'm Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Dave,

    Long time no hear! Good to see you here, so welcome to the forum

    Marco.
    Thanks Marco, it's a great forum and I've been busy reading the backlog of posts the last several days. I've found a lot of great posts and interesting tidbits in every thread.

  2. #512
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.

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    Hi Dave,

    Thanks. We do our best to try to keep things interesting. We've still got a long way to go though before we get to the standard of Audiocircle

    How is the place these days? I haven't been there in ages.

    Please feel free to impart your knowledge on all subjects, especially on the 1210 as I know you have fairly extensive experience in that area.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  3. #513
    Join Date: Sep 2008

    Location: San Diego, CA

    Posts: 251
    I'm Dave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks. We do our best to try to keep things interesting. We've still got a long way to go though before we get to the standard of Audiocircle

    How is the place these days? I haven't been there in ages.

    Please feel free to impart your knowledge on all subjects, especially on the 1210 as I know you have fairly extensive experience in that area.

    Marco.
    Audio Circle just has more members, this place will get there in time. I really haven't been reading the forums for the past 8 months but it seems the number of guys using the Technics has exploded in that time. I can't wait to see yours in a slate plinth.

    --Dave

  4. #514
    Join Date: Sep 2008

    Location: norwich

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    My ps1200 and Cardas arm have arrived. Once the govt. had taken their slice it came in at £340. i'm going to take a few snaps and send them to J7 to see how he feels about putting an ext lead on and what configuration it will take.If i manage to shift the old arm then i may keep the all in final cost below £400. I'm going on holiday on friday so it's just going to sit there in its box. i'm a little reticent because my standac has recently been blowing me away and thats about to be upgraded.
    watch this space for the review.
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    recovering audioholic

    Technics: SL 1210 mk2 / KAB PS1200 psu /Trans-fi Terminator / AT-OC9MLII / WD ph3s /Bluesound node 2i/Musical Fidelity Ms3i/ WADkit 6550 / Tannoy revolution xt8f

    Gareth.

  5. #515
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

    Posts: 110,482
    I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.

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    Nice one, mate

    When you get things together and assess them properly start a thread 'Mufty's KAB madness', or whatever, and tell us all about it, with photos.

    Have a nice holiday!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  6. #516
    Join Date: Jun 2008

    Location: Paris, France

    Posts: 790
    I'm Peter.

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    Mine's in it's box, stashed uder the bed. The decorators are finally at work! Taking the arm off, since I'd not done it before, was something I wanted to leave until I had a while day with nothing else to do.

    So the arm project is still on hold, might even have to wait until 2009!

    I was lucky with my PS1200/Cardas rewire buy, I got the exchange when the dollar was worth about 0.60€.

    cheers
    Intel NUC/Chevron Audio NDF16 dac/Amptastic Mini-1/Audium Comp 5
    Mains Block: Custom-HiFi-Cables PowerBlack Distribution Block (with super conditioner).
    Connected with Reference Fidelity Components Super Neptunes and Speaker Cables.
    Powered by Custom-HiFi-Cables DC2 psus

  7. #517
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

    Posts: 110,482
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    Hi Peter,

    Good to see you back! I thought you'd deserted us

    I guess that your hi-fi activities are somewhat curtailed at the moment...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  8. #518
    Join Date: Nov 2008

    Location: Dartmouth in beautiful Devon UK

    Posts: 1,243

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    Hi guys

    This might be a subtle opportunity to plug my SL-1200 page here www.SL-1200-MK2.com I can give sound reasons for every modification and answer most questions with a smile!

    I'll start a thread on it next week.

    Regards

    Dave

  9. #519
    Join Date: Jun 2008

    Location: Paris, France

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    I'm Peter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Peter,

    Good to see you back! I thought you'd deserted us

    I guess that your hi-fi activities are somewhat curtailed at the moment...

    Marco.
    No, I've just been busy, I also found a new diversion for quiet moments when I can't listen to music. If you're interested at all in boats, I'll point to it. The system was completely dismantled sunday last, and while I still have the TV system set up, and I can connect the mac mini, directly to the Beresford and then to the TV system. It's just not musically involving in comparison, not even close.

    I haven't deserted, I just might be quiet for a while.
    Intel NUC/Chevron Audio NDF16 dac/Amptastic Mini-1/Audium Comp 5
    Mains Block: Custom-HiFi-Cables PowerBlack Distribution Block (with super conditioner).
    Connected with Reference Fidelity Components Super Neptunes and Speaker Cables.
    Powered by Custom-HiFi-Cables DC2 psus

  10. #520
    Join Date: Nov 2008

    Posts: 126

    Default can't wait for my own KAB ..

    Hi folks,

    been lurking here for a while, just absorbing all of your experiences with the 1200/1210. I'm also the proud owner of a 1210mkII (15 year old), and after reading the glowing opinions here (and there and everywhere...) of the KABed 1200, i've decided to get my own. After a short chat with Kevin (great guy!) via email, a KABed 1200 should be on its way to me in a couple of weeks.

    Marco, thanks for your many opinions on the 'table. I noticed that you've gotten a new Jelco arm. Are you going to post a review, and why you've changed? is the Jelco a rega derivative, and so use the rega armboard, otherwise how are you mounting the jelco arm on?

    I'm using the 103 currently, and with the stock technics arm and headshell, there's not quite enough mass to match the compliance. I've resorted to sticking a small coin on the headshell. Anything heavier, and the stock counterweight won't be able to balance. Also, I'm a bit concerned about putting too much weight on one spot, as opposed to spreading the weight along the arm. I'll try and get a picture of the coin-modded 103 here when I get home.

    For the brass counterweight that I've heard so much about, It's a screw on right? What is the mass of the counterweight? I recall that it's in 3 pieces, so how much weight does it bring to the tonearm?

    one other thing, about the mats. I've read quite a bit here also about the various mats and experiences using them. I'm currently using the 5mm funk achromat, and because it's about the same thickness as the stock rubber mat, i didn't make any compensation to the arm height. But if you stack the herbie (3mm? 5mm?) with the funk mat (5mm), it goes up quite a bit, and do you adjust the arm height accordingly to keep the arm parallel? I'm still quite a novice at the VTA adjustments.

    Quite a bit to read for a first post, but I'm quite excited about my incoming, and just want to keep this excellent thread going for a great 'table.


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