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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    I can't comment on what you've said because that is the first I've heard of it unless this is some confusion around the early WAD KeL84's that I think used torroidal O/P Tx's.
    Definitely not the KEL84's, these were EI from the start. WAD did use torroidal PSU and O/P transformers for one of their earlier budget amps, not sure which one (may have been KEL34), but as you say they later changed to EI's for the O/P's. Interestingly, WAD continued to use torroids for PSU transformers on several other power amps.
    Certainly all the views I have read seem to rate the WD transformers as better than WAD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Oi, Richard, I asked you a question earlier about belt-drives vs. direct-drives! When you've got a moment, like

    Marco.
    Difficult one this - the DD decks do get so much of the fundamental aspects of music (ie pitch/rhythm) very right, and for the money the sound quality available is a genuine shock. Of course with the upgrade-ability of the 1210 in particular it can make a for a formidable front end, at what is a bargain price.

    Am I enjoying my records more than I ever have? Is the music speaking to me as well as it ever has? This is where things aren't necessarily so clear-cut...

    The one thing I look out for with a hifi system is its ability to communicate - can I catch the phrashing/intentions of the performer for example? The almost miniscule dynamic separations which comprise the musical phrase - the build and release of tension (I could go on for hours but will spare folk the boredom!) etc etc. This is where the NAS always scored for me - and to some extent it's still the best turntable I've had at home, or heard for any real length of time over an hour or 2. Where it tended to fall down vs the DD decks is in portrayal of transient dynamics - of course one could blame the arm/cartridge/mounting set-up etc but I feel that, fundamentally, a turntable's character is a major influence on the final result and doesn't tend to change drastically. It just gets diluted or concentrated depending on its ancillaries.

    The bottom line is, and I believe quite firmly in this, that a good turntable is a good turntable, and a bad one a bad etc.
    Richard.

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    Interesting, Richard, and I agree with much of what you say.

    However, if the Spacedeck is as good as you say then why has the P-71 been your turntable of choice for quite some time now? If you missed the Spacedeck enough you'd be using it - it's as simple as that, mate

    I would contend that the 'best' turntable (when one has a selection to use) is that which one chooses to listen to music on the most - that's the acid test... You're hardly going to (long term) deprive yourself of that pleasure, are you?

    The fact that the Spacedeck remains unplugged and the PL-71 is spinning tunes I suspect tells us all we need to know. You're enjoying music more on it, pure and simple.

    If I see future pictures of 'Gromit's music centre' with the Spacedeck regularly taking pride of place instead of the P-71 then I'll hold my hands up and say I was wrong!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

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    The NAS isn't being used because it's been sold - needed to free up the cash otherwise I'd still have it. I'll have to blame spending money on the new house for that.
    Richard.

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    Ah, it's a goner. I didn't know that. That's even more conclusive then, mate.

    Money spent on houses is always worthwhile though in my experience. I hope things are moving along nicely for you

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Ah, it's a goner. I didn't know that. That's even more conclusive then, mate.

    Money spent on houses is always worthwhile though in my experience. I hope things are moving along nicely for you

    Marco.
    Thanks Marco - here's hoping.

    We can't move in for quite some time but this is going to be our family home up near Cambridge once I finish working in London.

    I'm thinking of doing a deal on my mate's WAD, just to have something to swap around every so often. The NVA pre works so well with it that I'm inclined to go for it.
    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Jerry has my WAD 300b PP at the moment.Not a current kit,but if he would care to post his impressions it may give you an idea of what to expect from WD,given it's the first kit he's heard.
    Hi Ali

    Sorry, not been following this thread for a while. Big mistake! - some interesting stuff here.

    To be perfectly honest, the hum and buzz that were coming from your WAD 300B amp were just too much to hear the music through - the S/N wasn't at all alarge number, so I really can't make any fair and sensible comment about sound quality. Shame the new 300Bs didn't turn up before I returned the amp, that might have sorted it.
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    Still trying to get them Have mailed seller to see if he can sort it out.

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    The P90sa pre has now arrived...so of course there's the obligatory pic. I call this one 'Black Magic'....



    Looks better without the CD player mucking up the rack aswell.

    The P90's s/a pots need running in (I found the 50sa took a week or 2 to really come on song) but already the increase in clarity and information is acutely apparent.
    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
    Megabits: Bluesound Node 2i/TEAC UD-H01 dac
    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
    Connecting it together bits i/c's: Flashback Premier. Speaker cables: Van Damme Hifi

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    Yeah, Richard, who needs that digital crap getting in the way...

    Looking good, mate. Your thoughts on the new preamp in detail would be appreciated when you get a proper handle on what it's doing.

    Btw, are you going to RD's D/D bake-off? It's a shame that a fully fettled KAB 1210 won't be there to represent the Techy at its best.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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