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Thread: Mike New platter, Oyaide MJ-12 mat & STB-MS stabiliser arrive at Marco Towers...

  1. #161
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    Cheers, guys. Hopefully some of you will have found my ramblings useful

    Hi Colin,

    One small point of detail. Did the bruil weight work at all with the oyaide platter at all. Im not looking for the cheap route but personally i would want to buy the mat and then at a later date buy the stabilizer.
    Sonically, it worked very well (although not as well as when the STB-MS was used), but in terms of flattening out warps, no, as unfortunately the Bruil isn't quite heavy enough.

    However, any suitably heavy record weight (which means that it is as least as heavy as the STB-MS) would work, as I don't think the Oyaide stabiliser is doing anything particularly special in that respect

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Thanks Marco. How much does it weigh out of interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mains Cables R Us View Post

    Must admit the Technics looks damn cool with the Oyaide mat on doesn't it!

    Indeed







    Photos Copyright Adventures in High Fidelity Audio 2010

    Regards D S D L

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    Nice review Marco, very nice


    Regards D S D L

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    Cheers, mate - and may I say very nice pics (above) from you!

    Is that Hamish's old Techie?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hi Colin

    Thanks Marco. How much does it weigh out of interest?
    Ah.... Unfortunately, I've returned the mat and stabiliser now to David. However, I'm sure Neil will weigh it for you

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Neil,
    The pic Marco lets me use of his Techie is crap compared to yours.lol....

    Did you get yours from Whittlebury show as I was there and Oyaide first showed them and sold them all I was told!

    The only other Oyaide source in the UK is also a Dave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Cheers, mate - and may I say very nice pics (above) from you!

    Is that Hamish's old Techie?

    Marco.
    Beautiful isn't it ?

    Just thought it would be nice to give a wee hint as to what I have been up to recently as we started our evaluation process around about the same time. I haven't reached any firm conclusions yet though my project is a bit more wide ranging than yours has been as it will include arm options and PSU options as well.



    Regards D S D L

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike_New View Post
    Darren,
    I am afraid there is not much room for any funny business!! under the platter.
    I have modelled the complete assembly on CAD and I can tell you there is very little room.
    The design of the platter DD assembly is such that the platter sort of wraps itself around the motor assembly and the PCB. Hence the inverted dish shape of the platter which of course is a large part of the problem.

    There is also a thick layer of rubber bonded to the underside of the platter which would not be practical to remove. There are other platters such as the SL1500 which do not have any rubber bonding, and which could be contenders for your suggestion. However they will not work on the SL1200 as the magnet rotor assembly differs substantially.

    So we must resign ourselves to either putting something on top to improve the dynamics/sonics or look at an alternative platter design. Which in itself was not an easy task as the low profile of the motor assembly limits the options.
    Hi Mike,
    Please don't think I was trying to suggest you could be undercut easily or that your products are poor value -I'm just not wealthy like Marco and was wondering if a half way house as it were could be achieved....
    Just thinking aloud really.
    Naturally I wish you every success.
    The Man with the suit and the pace. Knee deep in the dead.

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    Yep well done Marco- now you can go and listen to more music and that blue Techie looks uber cool- any second opinion on the Oyaide mat Dalek? Good job to all, this is getting exicting
    System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+

    Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;


    1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands

    2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.




















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