Truly amazed

[DSJR]

They could save a mint on the excessive packaging though. Such a shame when this has to be chucked in the recycling bin once opened. I remember the Cable Talk packing (good but nowhere near as elaborate) costing around a fiver a lead (retail probably, so around a quid all in, in factory terms).

[Marco]

You chuck your packaging out?

I don't - every box, packet, wrapper or whatever, that have contained something I've bought for my system, is kept and put up in the loft, so if anything is sold, I have all the original packaging to sell it in 'as new' condition (I always keep everything I've bought absolutely mint), and therefore get more money for it in the end!

Marco.

[anthonyTD]

Well, based on what bodgee-boy's just written (lol), I've bought a couple of pairs (before the bloody price goes up! ), and when they arrive I'll compare them to my Mark Grants (and Barry's D.I.Y cables he has loaned me) to see what all the fuss is about......

Look out for a full review soon!

Marco.

P.S It would be interesting hearing what effect fitting better quality phono plugs to the undoubtedly excellent cable would make, as I suspect this is where the main costs have been cut.

To be honest daftee the plugs are not that bad, having a good tight fit outer ring, and a split centre pin for added contact pressure!
as stated i disected these cables so you dont have to and of course to get a better understanding of their construction, i have used cables in the past that utilise individualy insulated cores, and have actualy made my own speaker cables of a similar design.
i am not saying that these cables are the be all and end all, but for what they seem to do, they do very well.
Anthony,TD...

[DSJR]

You chuck your packaging out?

I don't - every box, packet, wrapper or whatever, that have contained something I've bought for my system, is kept and put up in the loft, so if anything is sold, I have all the original packaging to sell it in 'as new' condition (I always keep everything I've bought absolutely mint), and therefore get more money for it in the end!

Marco.

For an interconnect worth a fiver, I don't usually bother to keep the packing, as this wire will just disappear into the collection. I didn't have the patience to carefully cut round the seal so the outer casing wouldn't have been worth keeping. I have all the rest though, even the Eltax boxes the Spendors were in....

[Marco]

Lol - I know (I was mostly pulling your leg) but there's a very good chance these cables will go significantly up in price in the near future, due to the huge demand *if* they're as good as is being reported, therefore keeping the packaging will help hold any future increased value they may have

Anyway, that's not why I bought them. The enthusiastic comments about them so far (coupled with Anthony revealing their construction, which I liked the sound of) has merely piqued my interest

Marco.

[Marco]

To be honest daftee the plugs are not that bad, having a good tight fit outer ring, and a split centre pin for added contact pressure!
as stated i disected these cables so you dont have to and of course to get a better understanding of their construction, i have used cables in the past that utilise individualy insulated cores, and have actualy made my own speaker cables of a similar design.
i am not saying that these cables are the be all and end all, but for what they seem to do, they do very well.

Hehehe... I don't disagree, double-daftee, but there's nothing to stop me having some WBTs or Furutech plugs (I may try the latter this time) fitted to them to see what happens. It may result in giving birth to another 'giant-killing' cable, just like the Mark Grants

Marco.

[Effem]

Now I've got the second set they have replaced the resident interconnects so I had a good listen last night. They certainly can scrape a bit more moozik out than their predecessors did, especially in the midrange and that all-important detail but that is at the expense of a TINY bit of fizz way up in the treble. Oddly enough, there was a lot more imaging depth and placement, so that really did please me. With one cable installed the bass was full and extended, adding the second set has reduced the overall bass output slightly and made it tighter in the process. As I listened though, those criticisms were never at the forefront of my listening sesh, in fact I simply sat there and ENJOYED the noises the system was making.

As my initial post said, for a mere fiver they are a total no-brainer and perform infinitely better than the last "flavour of the month" bargain buy cables I bought on the strength of someone raving about how good they were - they are still unloved in a drawer somewhere. As a bonus too I can swap components up, down and sideways now in the rack without worrying if the connects are long enough as these are a very handy 2m in length.

[anthonyTD]

Hehehe... I don't disagree, double-daftee, but there's nothing to stop me having some WBTs or Furutech plugs (I may try the latter this time) fitted to them to see what happens. It may result in giving birth to another 'giant-killing' cable, just like the Mark Grants

Marco.

I am trying to fit a pair of WBT connectors to the ends i have cut off, but stripping back the individual insulation on the stranded cores is proving to be a bit of a nightmare
i will let you know how i get on and if i can remember how to put up some picks they too will follow!
Anthony,TD...

[Marco]

Lurvely - I look forward to that

The reason I suggested this is because from recent experience I know just how much top-notch plugs can transform how an (already good cable) sounds. The only thing I don't like the sound of is the 2m length. Unlike Frank, I don't like long interconnects, as experience so far has shown me that they generally sound worse than the 0.5 and 1m lengths I normally use....... We'll see!

*If* the Belkin, fitted with a pair of £200 WBTs, for example, can outperform some of the genuinely 'hi-end' cables on the market, just like the Mark Grants do, then for £205, we'll have something else to get excited about, cable-wise!

Exploring these sorts of possibilities is what AoS is all about

Marco.

[JazzBones]

You chuck your packaging out?

I don't - every box, packet, wrapper or whatever, that have contained something I've bought for my system, is kept and put up in the loft, so if anything is sold, I have all the original packaging to sell it in 'as new' condition (I always keep everything I've bought absolutely mint), and therefore get more money for it in the end!

Marco.

Marco mate, thank you, thank you. I showed Bren your posting as she thought I was the only one on this planet who saved boxes etc in the loft... my day has improved as I know I'm not alone now

Cheerfully,
Ron