Oh dear, I expect another "told you so" lecture later![]()
Mind you, if the P3/24 was fitted with an Elys of any description, I wouldn't hold out much if any hope
On a hopefully more pertinent note, just how much is a virgin Techie these days?
Oh dear, I expect another "told you so" lecture later![]()
Mind you, if the P3/24 was fitted with an Elys of any description, I wouldn't hold out much if any hope
On a hopefully more pertinent note, just how much is a virgin Techie these days?
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
I paid £168 for mine on ebay. Had a crappy DJ cartridge and no headshell or aux tonearm weight. Came in the original box. Condition is very good with just a few marks that are hardly noticeable. Lid has a few scratches, which is normal. After a good clean I was really pleased with it.
I couldn't believe how much it weighed compared to the Rega.
The only other turntable I've owned was a Pioneer PL300, which was mostly plastic and had an out-of-round platter so the strobe dots went back and forth as it played. Piece of crap really. Still, what did I know back in '82?
Dave,
I'm not condemning it at all. I think it's a cracking turntable for the money. It would wipe the floor with the Pioneer. I just thought I'd like to try something a bit more high tech. I also like to tinker with things. Can't do a lot more with the Rega. I had thought of making a custom plinth for it and might do that if I decide to keep it.
Bernie.
Hi Bernie,
Once you've put a new mat, feet and off-board PSU on the Techie, it'll see off ANY Rega, providing the same cartridge (MM) is used on both decks, trust me
If you want any advice on what to choose in terms of the above, just ask!
Dave,
The model I've got (MK5G - the nicest finished one) before it was discontinued cost £699:On a hopefully more pertinent note, just how much is a virgin Techie these days?
http://www.decks.co.uk/products/technics/sl1210mk5g
Observe the glossy top plate and 'cool looking' blue lights (compared to the blander, more 'sober' looking usual Mk II for £599.95, below):
http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/p...Product_ID/228
Indeed it was which undoubtedly hindered it somewhat. I told my mate that to cheer him up him (a little), when we swapped back to his deck after playing mine, and it sounded thick, muddy, shut-in, and quite frankly, broken in comparison.Mind you, if the P3/24 was fitted with an Elys of any description, I wouldn't hold out much if any hope.
Oh, and the Techie only had a stock DL-103 fitted (through the Lentek) - no SPU.
That Elys MM is not good and lets the side down pretty badly, IMO. He's thinking of buying a Dynavector 10-X5 (to use with the Naim MM boards in his NAC102) in the hope that it will wake things up a bit!
Ultimately he (thinks) he wants a Mitchell Gyro, but I'm still hopeful of saving him from elastic band-land
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Hi Bernie
Even with the extra weight I couldn't get my Nagaoka MP20 to sound 'right' on the stock Technics arm. It sounded very good but just something missing, so it will be good to see what you make of it.
A couple of other carts on the stock arm sounded marvellous but it didn't seem to be an ideal match for the MP20.
The MP20 on my LAD arm on a Technics sounds superb on the other hand. The best I've heard that cart sound by a country mile. A great match to be honest.
Jason
Technics SP10,(Jelco)LAD Tonearm,Pickering XV15/625e,Herbie's mat; Technics Sl1210 Mk5/Mission 774SM/DL160; Techncs SL1210/Ortofon VMS20eMKII;Technics SL1210Mk2, Jelco(LAD) tonearm, Nagaoka MP20, Platter matter; Technics SL7, P22
Other Carts:
AT120e, AT440MLa, AT110e,Goldring 1****,
2X Marantz CD5400
marantz PM7300,Rotel RA960 BX; Cambridge Audio 640P X 2
Wharfedale 9.1; Tannoy Mercury F1.
Hi D S D L
I'll post some pics at the weekend as I have no decent ones of my current set ups at the moment.
The SP10 won't be back for a while but I'm doing some cosmetic restoration of the plinth it came with. It should look OK when its finished and will last me for a while.
Jason
Technics SP10,(Jelco)LAD Tonearm,Pickering XV15/625e,Herbie's mat; Technics Sl1210 Mk5/Mission 774SM/DL160; Techncs SL1210/Ortofon VMS20eMKII;Technics SL1210Mk2, Jelco(LAD) tonearm, Nagaoka MP20, Platter matter; Technics SL7, P22
Other Carts:
AT120e, AT440MLa, AT110e,Goldring 1****,
2X Marantz CD5400
marantz PM7300,Rotel RA960 BX; Cambridge Audio 640P X 2
Wharfedale 9.1; Tannoy Mercury F1.
Hi again D S D L
There's a few pics of some of the TT's and tonearms I've owned in the gallery now. Some pics are good and some poor quality.
I've owned god knows how many other TT's in the last 3 or 4 years that I have no pictures of. Another 7 or 8 maybe?
Jason
Technics SP10,(Jelco)LAD Tonearm,Pickering XV15/625e,Herbie's mat; Technics Sl1210 Mk5/Mission 774SM/DL160; Techncs SL1210/Ortofon VMS20eMKII;Technics SL1210Mk2, Jelco(LAD) tonearm, Nagaoka MP20, Platter matter; Technics SL7, P22
Other Carts:
AT120e, AT440MLa, AT110e,Goldring 1****,
2X Marantz CD5400
marantz PM7300,Rotel RA960 BX; Cambridge Audio 640P X 2
Wharfedale 9.1; Tannoy Mercury F1.
Finally sorted out the 1210 today and cleaned and played a few LPs. Additions to the deck are Isanoe feet, Funk Akromat, Nagaoka MP-150 cartridge, Sumiko headshell and Bruil record weight. I'd been waiting for a couple of items thanks to the wonderful service provided by the Royal Mail.
I had a listen to the following:
Boys Light Up - Australian Crawl
Eye in the Sky - Alan Parsons Project
Boston - Boston
The Way It Is - Bruce Hornsby
Misfits - The Kinks
Silk Degrees - Boz Scaggs
Hydra - Toto
Points on the Curve - Wang Chung
Wow, does this turntable sound musical! I kept cranking up the volume (much to the annoyance of the missus) and had a real toe-tapping session! Foreplay/Long Time (Boston) and Psychobabble (APP) made the hair on the back of my neck stand up! They have never sounded so good to my ears before! Downhearted (Aussie Crawl), another favourite, sounded bloody good as well! The saxaphone solo sounded great.
To put my comments into perspective, I haven't had a good listen to these albums for over 10 years. They've been sat in storage because I've mostly been listening to CDs and, lately, Flacs on my Squeezebox Touch. They all needed a serious clean and new antistatic sleeves. From memory they NEVER sounded this good! A good indication I've moved my system in the right direction I guess.
The Nagaoka cartridge sounds much better than the Goldring 1012 I was using previously. It has much more musical impact than the Goldring it replaced. Sorry I can't describe it better.
Next mods in the coming months will be a tonearm rewire and a DIY PSU. I can't wait!
Bernie.