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  1. #131
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    Sorry, Dave, not sure what you're getting at.....

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Mike's sent me some pics of my customised version of his platter.
    Yes, I got those too. It'll be interesting to hear whether the bonded copper layer plays differently from the inserts in my version. Of course, we'll have to contend with both the copper and weight being different, but I can't wait to compare them.

    Can I just confirm, Marco, that your Achromat is the 5mm not the 3mm version? The Funk Firm website doesn't appear to accept direct orders so how did you purchase yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    It'll be interesting to hear whether the bonded copper layer plays differently from the inserts in my version.
    I'd expect it to having thought about it Copper is softer than alloy so it should have a damping effect on the alloy platter, with it being bonded this should be quite a bit better than just sat on top. From what i can remember copper even if shaped the same way as alloy rings far less & at a lower frequency as it's heavier than aluminium, not sure about the alloy used in this platter though

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    Hi Martin,

    Yes, I can't wait to compare the platters, too......

    I'm not sure what thickness of Achromat Arthur sent (I don't have it in front of me at the moment to measure, and I'm just having my dinner) but he would know, so best just to email him and ask him.

    You can order the Achromat at the same time

    info@thefunkfirm.co.uk or Tel: 01273 585042.

    There are some exciting times ahead, as I have a feeling this new platter (in conjunction with the Achromat) is going to raise the performance of the Techie to previously unprecedented levels!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Sorry, Dave, not sure what you're getting at.....

    Marco.
    Apologies, I was half asleep when I typed this. what I meant is that your composite platter has been tested on a techie before you receive it, so you won't have the supposed problems with ill-fitting as alluded to elsewhere.

    I hope this works out OK for all. I hate it when other, subjectivism aligned sites make gleeful entertainment out of threads like this, even though the targets aren't really the mass-membership. Some people can be so cruel and it rubs off on those of us here who post with the utmost civility.
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Ah, gotcha now, Dave

    With regard to the other thing, we're so far above those shit-filled cesspits, we simply look down and spit on them with the contempt they deserve

    Rising above it (and them) is the best option.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  7. #137
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    The new platter which Marco has posted a pic of, is essentially the same unit with a
    3mm thick annealed copper plate bonded to the alluminium surface. The copper plate is not removable as it is pressure bonded to the platter body. The copper plate is annealed at 600deg C before being quenched in a Sulphuric Acid pickling bath. This has the effect of rendering the copper pliable and more resonance absorbent, (it also etches the copper ready for bonding) and allowing a very close allover bonding connection with the top surface.
    This is, I believe a superior alternative to a free floating copper mat, which cannot have the required connectivity to the platter body as such. Although I have in posts elsewhere, recommended that people using these, should use a coating of good quality silicon grease (or Vaselene) in order to improve things.
    Last edited by Mike_New; 06-11-2010 at 00:08.

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    The MN platter I have is 2mm thicker than std and has the contouring for the bearing and stiffener. I use the 5mm funkfirm achromat, and the combination sounds heavenly.

    I am curious and look forward to your results Marco

    Cheers
    Pete
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    SL-1210 Mk5 w/Mike New Platter/bearing/armboard; Hynes SR5 DIY PSU;
    Zyx Airy3X; SME V; Hashimoto HM7 SUT; CJ PR15MkII Phono w/teflon caps.

    Modwright LS36.5 Dual Mono Preamp & KWA 150 amp > Paradigm Ref 100 v.4s

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    Would there be anything wrong with highly polishing the copper and placing the record directly
    on it and making a mat optional ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    I use the 5mm funkfirm achromat, and the combination sounds heavenly.
    Dammit, I'm really tempted now since you have a MN platter.

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