Outstanding digital components

[Rare Bird]

Is product Shilling allowed in a general forum?
What does the AUP say?

You lost me there Gaz? It's ok i'm thick at times whats AUP?

[Gazjam]

You lost me there Gaz? It's ok i'm thick at times whats AUP?

Acceptable Use Policy?
Forum Rules....

[Rare Bird]

product Shilling allowed what lost me Gaz sorry & who?

[Beechwoods]

Putting my mod hat on...

This isn't shilling chaps... Malcolm isn't making any bones about the fact that he's trade, he's not masquerading as a punter, which is where shilling comes in.

Malcolm though, please avoid making your comments personal. This goes for everyone else too, please.

It's worth pointing out that The Trade Impressions forum is where Trade are encouraged to promote their products... the other areas of the forum are for general discussion, and the sharing of experience. The experience of Trade members is greatly valued, but please lets keep the sales promotion stuff in Trade Impressions.

[/mod hat off]

[Nuuk]

The Gramofone unit is the first commercial DAC in the World that has successfully implemented Asynch USB 2.0.

Could you tell us how asynchronous USB 2.0 is better than asynchronous USB 1.1 please?

[Marco]

Hi 'NuuK',

Welcome to AOS

Could you please pop into the Welcome area and introduce yourself to our community by supplying your first name, basic geographic location, system details and music tastes, as this is the requirement for all new members joining AOS.

Cheers!

Marco.

[gramofone]

Could you tell us how asynchronous USB 2.0 is better than asynchronous USB 1.1 please?

Hello Nick,

Nice of you to drop in.

The main ticket items are the massively increased bandwidth that enables USB 2.0 up to 192 kHz sampling rates and multichannel capability ( a feature that Gramofone fully intends to exploit in forthcoming product releases).

Less obvious are the changes to the USB Audio Class 2 specification. If you look at the release notes, it documents a significant number of bug fixes and lifting of limitations to/ from the original USB Audio Class 1 standard. The Audio class model has been developed/ elaborated to provide a host of new control functions, and complete rewrites of domains in the previous USB Audio Class 1 model.

As with everything, of course, there is design & implementation, and it is up to 3rd. party hardware developers to take advantage of these new features in their USB Audio Class 2-enabled controllers, in order to provide a more robust and better control of the High Speed USB environment.

[Nuuk]

Thank you for the explanation Malcolm. You seem to know me from somewhere but I don't think that I know you.

As with everything, of course, there is design & implementation, and it is up to 3rd. party hardware developers to take advantage of these new features in their USB Audio Class 2-enabled controllers, in order to provide a more robust and better control of the High Speed USB environment.

Presumably that means that DAC's like yours will need to come with their own drivers?

[gramofone]

Thank you for the explanation Malcolm. You seem to know me from somewhere but I don't think that I know you.

Presumably that means that DAC's like yours will need to come with their own drivers?

Yes, I remember you from the mid-Noughties ... your Gainclone articles helped a lot of people, myself included. You might remember Pedja, who is helping out with the Gramofone project.

Mac have signed up to Audio Class 2 and supply drivers natively with Snow Leopard onwards, I believe.

Microsoft have been slow in uptake of AC2, so 3rd. Party vendors have stepped in to fill the void. Thesycon and one or two others have already released drivers.

We have bought a distribution license from Thesycon, so GF02 will come with the Audio Class 2 driver included.

[Nuuk]

Thanks again. It's getting quite important to keep up with all the latest developments in computer audio. It was all so much simpler with the Gaincloning!

Please give my regards to Pedja.