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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Adam,



    Indeed, and that's fair enough. Let me rephrase it then and use the SL120Mk2 as the example....... Did the SL120Mk2 have a better quality, more solid plinth than a current SL-1200, and perhaps even a superior platter?

    From the pictures I've seen of one (admittedly I haven't seen an example of one 'in the flesh'), it certainly looks that way to me.

    And if that's the case, could the bearing used and other components also not be of superior quality?

    This is what I meant when I said that the Techie, when it once an out-and-out hi-fi turntable (before it became a 'DJ deck' with a tonearm fitted), was overall built to a higher standard than the SL-1200/1210 produced today is in stock form

    Marco.
    From experiences recently gained, I should say that the SL120 mk1 could easily be improved by removing the lid when playing, the mat upgrade and definitely replacing the useless feet. The mk1 version of the 110 and 120 had totally enclosed motors which could be removed as an assembly. The electronics were external to the motor unit as in current models.
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    As well as a captive bath bearing, Time step also recommend a new aluminium platter made by Oyaide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinB View Post
    Hi Leo. Do you think the transformer you used would be suffice for the SR5 regulator ( i bought one for the PSU project but got a bit distracted by other toys) ?
    The one I used is way overkill tbh so if yours is the same it'll be fine. I think the PSU I knocked up is closer to the SR5 than SR3, the regulator module uses the larger output mosfet for driving heavier loads too
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    rather than the standard open bearing where the oil can be both "flung" out and simply "dribble" away
    I thought the above from the OP was rather amusing - the rotational speed of a TT bearing shaft is nothing like fast enough to achieve any kind of oil flinging .
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    I hope we have not lost the contributions that Dale could bring to this forum.As they say you cant buy experience.
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    Rotating at consideably less than once per second is so violent! How about those poor air molecules with your air bearing? They must be flattened, could be a risk of spitting an atom.
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    I put a straight edge across an original SP10 mat today. That isn't dished either.

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    From experiences recently gained, I should say that the SL120 mk1 could easily be improved by removing the lid when playing, the mat upgrade and definitely replacing the useless feet. The mk1 version of the 110 and 120 had totally enclosed motors which could be removed as an assembly. The electronics were external to the motor unit as in current models.
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for that, but it still doesn't answer my question!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for that, but it still doesn't answer my question!

    Marco.
    By the late seventies, I believe that Technics had all but disappeared from many HiFi shops until the early eighties amps re-invigorated the brand. I'm afraid I lost touch with the turntables apart from the occasional cartridge change on some of the older ones and then the KK review of the mk2 Gold one in HFN in the late nineties.. So no, i can't anser your question.
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
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    No worries - perhaps Adam can because I think it's relevant in terms of the point I made earlier

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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