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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The files are actually 24/192.
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    Well, I've put the 1.6uF Clarity Caps into my Caiman to replace the Tirna supplies Rubycons and the sound is a lot better. Bass punch is still apparent but tighter. Treble is so much smoother with these caps. They really sound good!

    I've turned up the volume and listening at higher levels is a lot less fatiguing than it used to be with the Rubycons. The extra clarity is still there and there's real punch to the music. Honestly, this is the best I've heard music through my system. Hopefully they'll improve even more over the next few days.

    One thing I do miss with this mod is the use of the headphone output. Once I have one of Stan's new output boards I'll be fitting these caps and installing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canetoad View Post
    Well, I've put the 1.6uF Clarity Caps into my Caiman to replace the Tirna supplies Rubycons and the sound is a lot better. Bass punch is still apparent but tighter. Treble is so much smoother with these caps. They really sound good!

    I've turned up the volume and listening at higher levels is a lot less fatiguing than it used to be with the Rubycons. The extra clarity is still there and there's real punch to the music. Honestly, this is the best I've heard music through my system. Hopefully they'll improve even more over the next few days.

    One thing I do miss with this mod is the use of the headphone output. Once I have one of Stan's new output boards I'll be fitting these caps and installing it.
    Bernie, just be careful with the value of the capacitors. According to Stan the discrete board uses 47uf caps and I think you will be shocked when you see how much Clarity Caps are..........
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    It may be that Stan has used that value as that is what he suggested initially,that value allowing use with pretty much any piece of kit.47uF CC's wouldn't fit inside the Beresford case anyway.

    Bernie, since you're in the same town,if you fancy listening to some choons and a few beers sometime,let me know!

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    The Caiman/7520 sounds so much better with the passive mod...a couple of questions...can other cdps/dacs benefit from this, and if so, why don't other manufacturers do this? Well, I did promise some daft questions when I joined !
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopBalcony View Post
    The Caiman/7520 sounds so much better with the passive mod...a couple of questions...can other cdps/dacs benefit from this, and if so, why don't other manufacturers do this? Well, I did promise some daft questions when I joined !
    I have done this to 3 Dacs now. In my 3 I have just wired direct from the analogue out pins of the Dac chip. I also add some small value caps (2.2uf - 4.7uf) and if neccessary for impedance matching, a resistor on each channel tied to ground (by the way I was criticised on here for impedance matching to the pre-amp in this way. can't remember why now) It works for me ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    ditto!
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    Glad to see others are trying out different caps I'm still finding the bass from the 10uf MKP2000 to be lacking, its warm sounding but light, gives a hint of being glazed over.

    I gave a pair of well run in 1uf Multicap RTX's a try, those seemed quite promising after a warm up, very detailed with a hint of warmth, quite fast sounding but can lack body

    I also have some 2.2uf copper Obligato's to try as well as some 2uf PIO Obligato's

    The film caps are obviously a better cap than the electrolytics although funny thing is the films also have different signatures, you just got to try as many as you can guys until you find your preferred flavour I'm still on the hunt for the cap which adds least amount of flavour so if anybody has any idea's let us know
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