But if you want to avoid heavily DJ used gear, then why go for a tt meant for DJ use

[The Grand Wazoo]

Finn's attitude is really very telling. Reading between the lines he is basically saying that if its not crazy dear its not worth talking about.

Well, when I read between Finn's lines what I got was 'If it's cheap and Japanese, it's shite'.
I also got a whiff of wannabe willy waving.

[Marco]

Lets be honest here. So much expensive Top End audio gear is bought by the eyes, egos and empty wallets, there's no way a current model Techie can cut it in the company of a £40K turntable, no matter how good or bad it is - the Techie just isn't flash or expensive enough. An otherwise identical model costing £10K with fancy plinth and called the SP10 Signature (or something equally snooty) would be far better thought of by these people, even if it didn't sound any better at the end of the day.

Indeed, Dave - and it's idiots like that who I wouldn't want anywhere near AoS, as they represent the complete antithesis of what this site (and community) is all about.

Neil,

Hear, hear - I couldn't have put it better myself!

However, this for me is the crucial bit:

I know AOS can appear a bit of clique but it is a fairly broad church but it does have lots of members who like Technics, Tannoy, Beresford etc. That has only happened as people join who are of like mind or having tried it out then agree...what's wrong with that ? Nothing

Indeed! The only reason that such equipment is popular here is because it offers very high 'sound-per-pound value', so when folk get the chance to own equipment that can compete with, and in some cases outperform stuff which costs much more, they'll quite naturally praise it from the rooftops and recommend it to others.

That for me is perfectly normal human behaviour, and nothing whatsoever to do with cliques or 'fanboyism'!!

What should we do - shut up and keep things to ourselves??

Well I've got news for people like Finn: sharing equipment recommendations and tweaks with like-minded people is what an Internet audio discussion site is all about, therefore AoS will always champion the gear its members use and find as excellent. Those who don't like that for whatever nonsensical reason are welcome to take themselves off elsewhere - and to them I would offer a well deserved two-fingered salute......!!



Marco.

[Marco]

Well, when I read between Finn's lines what I got was 'If it's cheap and Japanese, it's shite'.
I also got a whiff of wannabe willy waving.

I just got a whiff of pure shite. If he owns the system he listed in his welcome thread, I'm the next President of the US! The boy certainly knows all about fantasies

Marco.

[Techno Commander]

Good post Neil.

When you consider the 1210 is a mass market item from a household name, the performance offered is quite startling and therefore comes as unexpected. It reminds me of when Ford released the Cosworth Escort. It was still "only a Ford", but it well and truly kicked the BMW brigade in the nads.

[Welder]

I can see I’m going to have to find someone with a Technics so I can have a listen for myself.

[Marco]

Well if you find yourself at a loose end and fancy a trip to Wrexham.......

Marco.

[MartinT]

Ditto if you're ever Basingstoke way.

[Welder]

That's very kind of you both. I'll bear it in mind when I'm mobile again.

[Batty]

I find myself in the same frame of mind as Welder, I have not heard a different TT for years, but unlike another poster I shall not pass any derogatory remarks toward the Techie, because a. it's downright rude and b. I have no experience to fall back on.

Can I just say that I do like my rubber band driven TT, but it does have a nice heavy platter to iron out those wows and flutters.

[DSJR]

The Rock wasn't a wow prone rubber band driven deck in any case..