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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I bought a cheapo Sony direct drive, the ones with the hollow plastic plinth. It was okay, provided you didn't drum on it, not really far off an SL1200 as you'd worry that much. I was going to tinker with it by adding blu tak to the inside of the plinth and whatever else came to mind, but then someone needed a deck so I gave it away.

    Also had a Sanyo DD in faux rosewood plinth that came as part of a job lot. Mint, not a mark on it, or the lid, looked brand new. That was also pretty decent, good enough for anyone not taking vinyl very seriously. Gave that to the bloke who fitted my FM ariel. Probably sell for £200 on ebay now.

    This was the Sanyo - TP1012

    Decent little deck that, and a bargain for the price. Like you say though, the plastic plinths kill them for proper hi-fi use. Just think how all that drumming (resonance) is being picked up by the stylus and ruining the sound!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Yes it's far from ideal. I think Technics got it right with their rubberised compound stuff for the 1200/1210 plinths.

    But I thought it would be interesting to take one of the cheaper ones with the hollow plinth and see what could be done with it. Solve that and you'd have something at least half-decent for pin money, at least back then.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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    Indeed. It's worth it as a project.

    The rubberised compound stuff on the 1200/1210 was introduced to stop vibration from dance floors during its use in nightclubs, and yes, is effective. You still need a decent set of feet (Isonoes, etc) to finish the job.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    It's perfectly feasible to treat the technics like Lenco 75's in that you only need a few essential parts to make a fantastic TT. The motherboard is probably the only thing you need. I should think that everything else could be removed (optimised) or replaced with after market alternatives. The only original bits of my 1210 are the plinth and the motherboard (and even that's been modded)!!
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakefield Turntables View Post
    It's perfectly feasible to treat the technics like Lenco 75's in that you only need a few essential parts to make a fantastic TT. The motherboard is probably the only thing you need. I should think that everything else could be removed (optimised) or replaced with after market alternatives. The only original bits of my 1210 are the plinth and the motherboard (and even that's been modded)!!
    Agree Andrew and I have a spare motherboard so I think it will outlast me


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