Early wood trim version looked ok.Originally Posted by hifi_dave
Purely in the sound department, of course....
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Early wood trim version looked ok.Purely in the sound department, of course....
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Yes, it did but plain and simple.
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Personally I liked the CQ30 I used to own - thought it was very nice and sounded very pleasant indeed.
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Care to list any of the ones it showed up, in your opinion?It did/does and it was most upsetting. There were many beautiful looking turntables back then but the plain ol' Planar-2 showed them up. Purely in the sound department, of course....
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Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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According to some old rag, I think it might have been Hi-Fi Answers, the Planar 2/3 easily showed up the Nakamichi TX-1000.
Didn't you listen to one of those recently, Marco? What did you think of it?
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Lol! I sincerely hope it's not more of that nonsense. I would hope that Dave knows better!
Some deluded fool on pfm said something similar a while back about a P2 and another top-notch Jap D/D deck. I forget which one it was. The trouble is their heads are so full of the old blinkered flat-earth nonsense that they're incapable of judging what they're hearing properly!
Yes, I liked the Nakamichi, but much preferred the L-07D, more than likely because I'm not a massive fan of modern SME arms (a 312S was fitted to the Nak), as I feel that they portray music in a way which is a bit too 'polite' for my tastes. I find 12" arms sometimes a bit like this too. They're undeniably more 'accurate', but similar quality 9" arms to my ears have more verve and immediacy.
I realise that this is sometimes a synergy thing too, but I've heard that sonic signature before with modern SMEs on a number of T/Ts. I put it down mainly to the Magnesium armtube damping the sound too much. Sometimes you can over control resonance and strangle dynamics in the process. I think that Magnesium is an excellent material for a headshell, but over-eggs the pudding too much on a full armtube. That's my theory, anyway.
It would be interesting to compare an M2-12R fitted with a quality magnesium headshell, instead of the rather flumsy one supplied as standard, against a 312S, using the same cartridge, and see what the results were. I think that some would be surprised!
The L-07D was much more fun to listen to - it had more 'get up and go' and boogied more, which I like. The Nak/SME/Zyx portrayed the music as 'all present and correct', but it was a somewhat 'sober' listen, whereas the L-07D make you want to get up and dance! It sounded remarkably close to my modded Techie in that respect, as it has a similar fun-factor. Both decks were close, but the L-07D edged it in the final analysis.
That's a précis - you'll get the in-depth stuff when I finish the report!
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Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Can i just say i would buy an old Rega Planer 3/R200 over thos aswell.
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Lol - have you actually heard any of them at length, dude, and done a back-to-back comparison with a Rega in the same system, or are you just allowing your bias against Jap D/Ds to influence your opinion?
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Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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