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[struth]

some saying lukashenko, pal of putin has left belarus..

[walpurgis]

some saying lukashenko, pal of putin has left belarus..

Could be: https://news.yahoo.com/plane-used-be...0dxud-tfPdr7JV

[Firebottle]

first thing you learn making glass fibre boats is several changes in direction of the fibre.. i'd imagine carbon fibre to be similar. there is also titanium in it but dunno where, and a dod of perspex up front which apparently buckles inward under pressure. it wouldn't surprise me if it gave way first. the owner said it makes a crackly noise before it goes, and you need to head up fast

Look at this video

[walpurgis]

Looks like there was a flat bonded interface between the metal 'hoop' and the carbon fibre hull. It seems all wrong to me, not even tapered or sleeved.

[struth]

Look at this video

yes it seems to be just rolled on all in same direction, which wont help it much, but over time fibre is inclined to lose its strength too. the titanium, of which there isnt much is just glues on for a seal really.. that is bound to be affected too. innovation is one thing, but this was cutting corners to meet a price and make money.
an accident waiting to happen

[struth]

Looks like there was a flat bonded interface between the metal 'hoop' and the carbon fibre hull. It seems all wrong to me, not even tapered or sleeved.

that bit didnt look great did it?. i guess as long as glue doesnt give way its at least being held in place by pressure. film guy Cameron, has been saying folk there think it had already dropped its skids and was going up fast... not sure how they/he could say that tho without pulling up most of it.
i doubt there will be any remains tho on the site if anywhere. maybe bones

[walpurgis]

Nobody has said how deep the submersible may have been at the time of lost contact, I reckon it was still going down when it collapsed. No info either on the time between lost contact and the 'pop' detected, I'll bet they were simultaneous.

[struth]

Nobody has said how deep the submersible may have been at the time of lost contact, I reckon it was still going down when it collapsed. No info either on the time between lost contact and the 'pop' detected, I'll bet they were simultaneous.

this is info you need before you can make a call imo. apparently it has a separate pressure chamber with a gps tagger or suchlike and its own power supply. now afaik both went at same time suggesting it just collapsed.
there was a mythbusters where they did a pig parts in a pressure suit at only 130 psi and it wasnt nice. obviously it wasnt instant due to the way it was done but it crushed everything really. so im guessing it was miliseconds and you wouldnt notice it; it would just happen

[walpurgis]

Lots happening in Russia. The Wagner Group mutiny is making headway and their troops are rapidly approaching Moscow up their M4 motorway. Moscow is now in a semi-lockdown. Russian troops are digging trenches across their M4 motorway and other routes to slow the Wagner advance. To top it all, Ukraine announces a major offensive to the east, cashing in on the situation no doubt.

[Pigmy Pony]

Lots happening in Russia. The Wagner Group mutiny is making headway and their troops are rapidly approaching Moscow up their M4 motorway. Moscow is now in a semi-lockdown. Russian troops are digging trenches across their M4 motorway and other routes to slow the Wagner advance. To top it all, Ukraine announces a major offensive to the east, cashing in on the situation no doubt.

If Russia had made their M6 into a smart motorway like our M6, there would be no need to dig trenches - the contraflows and 50mph limits enforced by average speed cameras would be enough to slow the Wagner advance.