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[Barry]

The same birthday, not the same birth date.

[Macca]

Yeh, I think you mean our super Liberal Nordic friends, or illiberal rather, leave them to it, they're all grinding their cultures into dust, quite willingly too it seems. Sweden got sick of it and voted in a far right govt., which is not the answer, why can't it ever be a far left govt.?

no they haven't, they've got a minority government led by a Moderate. The do have the support of the SD but I wouldn't describe the SD as 'Far Right', Maybe years ago they were. Why is it not a far left government? Not enough naïve voters. Which is why far lefties always want to decrease the voting age so children can vote.

[Mikeandvan]

no they haven't, they've got a minority government led by a Moderate. The do have the support of the SD but I wouldn't describe the SD as 'Far Right', Maybe years ago they were. Why is it not a far left government? Not enough naïve voters. Which is why far lefties always want to decrease the voting age so children can vote.

OK, but the far right are gaining ground, same in Italy. Anyway, I'd argue that many European states have already implemented far left policies regarding immigration, multiculturalism, and the trans issue.

[struth]

pity we cant just have people without party ideologys.. you know; folk who just represent their constituants instead of doing what the party want etc.

[Macca]

OK, but the far right are gaining ground, same in Italy. Anyway, I'd argue that many European states have already implemented far left policies regarding immigration, multiculturalism, and the trans issue.

Are they? I think fascism has always been a minority sport, likewise communism. I suppose if people are desperate enough they will vote for anything but this isn't the 1930s.

I know lots of middle class lefties see themselves as the only defence against another Hitler, but it's just a fantasy. I call it the 'Joe Strummer Effect.'

Re trans I think Canada has gone further than any European state? Don't you have to remember to use all the idiotic personal pronouns there or you can get prosecuted?

[Macca]

pity we cant just have people without party ideologys.. you know; folk who just represent their constituants instead of doing what the party want etc.

what? Run the country using only common sense and pragmatism? You're living in a dream-world

[struth]

what? Run the country using only common sense and pragmatism? You're living in a dream-world

yeah, i guess it would be far fetched. something might actually get done, and lives might get better..

la-la land stuff.

[Mikeandvan]

Are they? I think fascism has always been a minority sport, likewise communism. I suppose if people are desperate enough they will vote for anything but this isn't the 1930s.

I know lots of middle class lefties see themselves as the only defence against another Hitler, but it's just a fantasy. I call it the 'Joe Strummer Effect.'

Re trans I think Canada has gone further than any European state? Don't you have to remember to use all the idiotic personal pronouns there or you can get prosecuted?

Of course they are, first Brexit, then Marine Le Pen's party making Macron look over his shoulder, now Meloni in Italy, as stated SD gaining a lot of ground in Sweden. Though Brexit is not exactly a far-right phenomenon. In fact I would say that these are all expressions of nationalism, not necessarily far right politics, I used the term earlier a bit loosely. In Sweden and other Nordic countries the rate of immigration from Middle Eastern/African states is astonishing, and they are having issues with that, so the rise of Nationalist parties is hardly a surprise, in fact its been a long time coming. Italy is often the first port of call for African immigrants/so called refugees, mainstream parties/the EU won't address this adequately so 'Brothers of Italy' got in, let's see how they address the issue. I think people voted for them out of exasperation with the mainstream politicians, they may deliver on immigration, and some cultural issues, but on economic issues I'm not so sure. And yes Canada is currently leading the world in Woke governing, apparently if you're depressed there, they prescribe suicide as a cure.

[Macca]

And yes Canada is currently leading the world in Woke governing, apparently if you're depressed there, they prescribe suicide as a cure.

I don't think there's any chance of those right wing parties ever getting full control but as you say people are rightly concerned about economic migration so some will vote for them and that does mean they have an influence on policy. If it wasn't for UKIP splitting the tory vote we would never have had the referendum on EU membership. And UKIP would never have got anywhere if it wasn't for the 'come one come all' immigration policy of the early 2000s.

Now they just come in illegally and get to stay anyway so not sure what that solved but hey ho it's a problem for the younger generation now.

[AJSki2fly]

I don't think there's any chance of those right wing parties ever getting full control but as you say people are rightly concerned about economic migration so some will vote for them and that does mean they have an influence on policy. If it wasn't for UKIP splitting the tory vote we would never have had the referendum on EU membership. And UKIP would never have got anywhere if it wasn't for the 'come one come all' immigration policy of the early 2000s.

Now they just come in illegally and get to stay anyway so not sure what that solved but hey ho it's a problem for the younger generation now.

Just wait till migration proper starts due to global warming, as the central belt heats up and Africa becomes a furness for 2/3 of the year, and similar in India and Pakistan millions will be marching North looking for somewhere to survive. If the USA think they have issues now with immigration from South they will face even worse as well.