Tell Me Something............Anything!

[Macca]

white russians are the ones who fought against the Red Army in the Russian Civil War .. ie ukrainians, lithuanians etc. maybe this is the basis of the woke talk

as for kyiv, i think thats ukranian

I used to know a bloke whose father was Ukrainian, he was in the Waffen SS during the war. 'Rounding up' partisans.

Kyiv might be Ukranian but we're British so it's 'Kiev' like it's always been. We're don't say 'I'm off for a long weekend in Roma' do we?

Like Churchill said re Istanbul/Constatinople, ''I do not consider that names that have been familiar for generations in England should be altered to study the whims of foreigners living in those parts.”

or AP Herbert: ''Every Englishman is born with the inalienable right to pronounce foreign words any way he pleases”

[struth]

I used to know a bloke whose father was Ukrainian, he was in the Waffen SS during the war. 'Rounding up' partisans.

Kyiv might be Ukranian but we're British so it's 'Kiev' like it's always been. We're don't say 'I'm off for a long weekend in Roma' do we?

Like Churchill said re Istanbul/Constatinople, ''I do not consider that names that have been familiar for generations in England should be altered to study the whims of foreigners living in those parts.”

or AP Herbert: ''Every Englishman is born with the inalienable right to pronounce foreign words any way he pleases”

yeah but im scottish

[Barry]

The Ukrainian name is Ки́їв, written in the Ukrainian Cyrillic alphabet, and usually rendered in Latin letters (or romanized) as Kyiv. Before standardization of the alphabet in the early 20th century, the name was also spelled Кыѣвъ, Киѣвъ, or Кіѣвъ with the now-obsolete letter yat.

But spoken in Russian, Kiev sounds more like “Key-EV.” But at times, it sounded more like “keev,” with the long “ee” pronounced as a single syllable.

[walpurgis]

I remember fifties/sixties Soviet cameras marked with the 'Kiev' brand. Quite liked them.

[Macca]

yeah but im scottish

'Viewers in Scotland will have their own programmes.'

[Macca]

My favourite is the Italian port of Livorno, I still have a world atlas from about 1972 which shows it as 'Leghorn.'

Immediately brings to mind the once highly popular 'Foghorn Leghorn' cartoons, now sadly confined to the dustbin of history by political correctness.

They're telling you what you can and can't do, what you can and can't say, what you can and can't think, but it's not fascism because they don't call it fascism.

[walpurgis]

'Viewers in Scotland will have their own programmes.'

Re-runs of Kenneth McKellar and Andy Stewart shows?

[Barry]

I used to know a bloke whose father was Ukrainian, he was in the Waffen SS during the war. 'Rounding up' partisans.

Kyiv might be Ukranian but we're British so it's 'Kiev' like it's always been. We're don't say 'I'm off for a long weekend in Roma' do we?

No more than I could say I have visited: Shqipëria; Hellas; Mesopotamia; Persia; Cathay; French Indo-China; Ceylon; The Japans; Haute Volta; Abyssinia; Tanganyika; Bechuanaland: North and South Rhodesia, etc..

[struth]

My favourite is the Italian port of Livorno, I still have a world atlas from about 1972 which shows it as 'Leghorn.'

Immediately brings to mind the once highly popular 'Foghorn Leghorn' cartoons, now sadly confined to the dustbin of history by political correctness.

They're telling you what you can and can't do, what you can and can't say, what you can and can't think, but it's not fascism because they don't call it fascism.

was once known as ligorno; think thats where leghorn came from

[struth]

No more than I could say I have visited: Shqipëria; Hellas; Mesopotamia; Persia; Cathay; French Indo-China; Ceylon; The Japans; Haute Volta; Abyssinia; Tanganyika; Bechuanaland: North and South Rhodesia, etc..

aye, ive been all over the world too... london, newcastle and dublin