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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish View Post
    Blimey marco grow some balls
    Lol! I know, I know....

    But I'm always very nervous about tampering with things I don't understand - even when it's in a very minimal way. If I f*cked up anything I'd be SERIOUSLY pissed off (I wouldn't be able to take it on the chin like you do), so I always play it safe with these things!

    I'm not at all interested in knowing the 'workings' of the deck (my mind just doesn't operate that way); merely in listening to improved sound from my favourite music

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    It is a refreshing change to see that horrid Techy platter gone for a plain platter but i feel the 11.5Lbs is very heavy compared to the original.

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    I've never liked it either, TBH... Mike's platter, apart from no doubt improving performance, will do away with the strobe markings and make it look less like a DJ deck

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Not a 1200, but close enough I think...

    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I've never liked it either, TBH... Mike's platter, apart from no doubt improving performance, will do away with the strobe markings and make it look less like a DJ deck

    Marco.
    I was thinking about the extra stress on start up.compared to the lighter techy platter

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    You HAVE to fit the better bearing Andre, as far as I'm aware. By all reports, the bearing improves the standard platter, so should be done first. The superior engineering of the bearing should more than happily take an 11.5lb platter with ease - an LP12 platter assembly isn't hugely lighter IIRC. My Mentor platter was 80lb plus as I recall and the substantial bearing in that showed no wear at all after a few years daily use...

    I doubt the electronics of the Techie motor would bother TBH. This motor unit was grafted into cutting lathes at one point, because they were so capable and, as far as I'm aware, a cutting lathe platter is *considerably* heavier than the Mike new platter
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Lol! I know, I know....

    But I'm always very nervous about tampering with things I don't understand - even when it's in a very minimal way. If I f*cked up anything I'd be SERIOUSLY pissed off (I wouldn't be able to take it on the chin like you do), so I always play it safe with these things!

    I'm not at all interested in knowing the 'workings' of the deck (my mind just doesn't operate that way); merely in listening to improved sound from my favourite music

    Marco.
    One thing to take into consideration that i learned in the past is you can easily sink serious big money into a deck that can vastly outprice it's used value, in which case you could also by a better deck for the same outlay you spent in the long run, also you can easily transform a deck into something it isnt anymore, it's a whole new turntable.

    I'm being very very carefull this time in not going crazy.
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    It looks as though Mike New will end up with a totally new turntable at least as good as the SP10 at its best and possibly better.

    The thing is, the donor deck ain't bad in standard trim with original arm, but bit by bit, and finishing with the new deck-plate/plinth, you'll have a truly top class model.

    In the meantime, I'll stay as a NAS fan..
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Interesting point. Jimmy hughes wrote in hi fi choice this month about the LP 12 mods available that change the deck into something that sounds completely differnt to the original deck.

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    Now that I have a Copper mat on my 1210, which is pretty damned heavy too (1.7kg), the platter is completely dead. No ringing at all, even before the Herbies mat is placed on top. I have the Mike New bearing in place, too.

    I will be very interested to compare my deck with one containing the new platter.

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