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  1. #5981
    Join Date: Jun 2014

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    My blu ray player is Panasonic, but it's about 4 years old now. Probably not quite good enough for my LG OLED telly, and I can't summon the enthusiasm to replace it. Just laziness I guess. The last blu ray disc I bought was "Once upon a Time in Hollywood", it was months before I got round to watching it, then 5 minutes later it was on Sky Movies.

    The problem is, my armchair is here, and the discs are all the way over there. Strange how I'm happy to get up every 20 minutes to turn a record over, but for viewing I just want to press buttons.

    Also the picture is a bit crap when everything is going through my ancient Sony AV receiver, so just using telly sound at the mo. Everything changes so quickly, but I will have to address this - Anita misses the big bangs (this is where you jump in, Marco)
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: KEF Reference 3, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Arcam A75 integrated, Monitor Audio R852 MD speakers
    A/V:
    LG OLED65 G56LS, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL T9i sub.


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  2. #5982
    Join Date: Aug 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    My blu ray player is Panasonic, but it's about 4 years old now. Probably not quite good enough for my LG OLED telly, and I can't summon the enthusiasm to replace it. Just laziness I guess. The last blu ray disc I bought was "Once upon a Time in Hollywood", it was months before I got round to watching it, then 5 minutes later it was on Sky Movies.

    The problem is, my armchair is here, and the discs are all the way over there. Strange how I'm happy to get up every 20 minutes to turn a record over, but for viewing I just want to press buttons.

    Also the picture is a bit crap when everything is going through my ancient Sony AV receiver, so just using telly sound at the mo. Everything changes so quickly, but I will have to address this - Anita misses the big bangs (this is where you jump in, Marco)
    I've never run the picture through the amp, don't see the point of it. I only use a standard 2 channel hi-fi amp these days though, it has a DAC with optical in and I just run optical from the back of the telly into the amp. You forget how crap the built-in TV sound is until you plug in a proper amp and speakers. So much more enjoyable with decent sound.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

  3. #5983
    Join Date: Jun 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I've never run the picture through the amp, don't see the point of it. I only use a standard 2 channel hi-fi amp these days though, it has a DAC with optical in and I just run optical from the back of the telly into the amp. You forget how crap the built-in TV sound is until you plug in a proper amp and speakers. So much more enjoyable with decent sound.
    But are you sure that your optical is just carrying the audio? I'd always assumed that the optical and HDMI outs from the telly carried sound and picture. This way sound and vision was always in synch. maybe I was just being thick - when it came to A/V i just moved wires and switches about till something happened, then left it alone. A case of "well it's working, but I've no idea why"...
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: KEF Reference 3, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Arcam A75 integrated, Monitor Audio R852 MD speakers
    A/V:
    LG OLED65 G56LS, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL T9i sub.


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  4. #5984
    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    Hdmi does audio, video in sync. Before that you needed to use an audio cable and video. Best bet was optical audio and a dvi plug to keep sync
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    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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  5. #5985
    Join Date: Aug 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    But are you sure that your optical is just carrying the audio?...
    Yes.

    Previously used a Sony 7 channel HT receiver for sound -coax from cable box into the receiver for sound and scart from cable box into telly for picture. No sound sync issues

    Then telly and cable box got upgraded so couldn't do that anymore as no scart outputs or inputs - The bloke in Richer Sounds where I got the new telly told me to use optical from telly into a DAC. Since I had an amp with built in DAC lying about doing nothing it was a cheap and easy solution, £7 for the optical cable and Bob's your mother's brother.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

  6. #5986
    Join Date: Aug 2009

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    I've also got an optical cable that has a DAC built into it so I can use an amp that doesn't have a DAC in it. But that's still in it's box, never tried it. Think that was only a tenner.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

  7. #5987
    Join Date: Jun 2014

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    I started out last Christmas (when I bought this 4K telly), running a HDMI from the Sky box to the Sony AV amp, then HDMI from that to the telly. I assumed the HD credentials of the amp were the weak link as the picture didn't look right. So I cut out the amp and speakers and just run the Sky box straight to the telly. that improved the picture but now I just have sound from TV. Seems a bit of a waste, as the surround sound stuff is all MA Radius speakers, and a decent BK sub.

    I should have a word with the good men of Richers on how best to make it all work
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: KEF Reference 3, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Arcam A75 integrated, Monitor Audio R852 MD speakers
    A/V:
    LG OLED65 G56LS, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL T9i sub.


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  8. #5988
    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    Don't get it... I'm doing exactly the same as you, with very similar gear, hooked up via HDMI, (Monoprice 4K compatible cables) and I've got the Odeon in my living room!

    Summat ain't right...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #5989
    Join Date: Feb 2013

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    Cables may not be of right spec. Maybe get better ones(not Ness dearer)
    Some have wrong spec, and swapping in a different cable fixes it.
    Also need to check that all setti gs are correct
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

  10. #5990
    Join Date: Aug 2009

    Location: Staffordshire, England

    Posts: 43,389
    I'm Martin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    I started out last Christmas (when I bought this 4K telly), running a HDMI from the Sky box to the Sony AV amp, then HDMI from that to the telly. I assumed the HD credentials of the amp were the weak link as the picture didn't look right. So I cut out the amp and speakers and just run the Sky box straight to the telly. that improved the picture but now I just have sound from TV. Seems a bit of a waste, as the surround sound stuff is all MA Radius speakers, and a decent BK sub.

    I should have a word with the good men of Richers on how best to make it all work
    Run an optical from TV into the Sony amp apropos achieving surround sound without running picture signal through the amplifier.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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