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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Ah - I see what you mean:

    Also, the leads have to cross one another between the headshell pins and the cartridge pins; so that will use up a bit of length.
    Yeah, also see my previous post. It should be fine

    I have no experience of your Denon, the only ones I have heard are my two DL103s; both of which are now down in the order of preference of my MC cartridges (having been surplanted by my EMTs, Ortofons, a Van den Hul, and my current favourite: the Ikeda C9 III (a cantileverless (à la Decca) moving-coil design, that combines the strengths of a Decca with that of a moving-coil cartridge, with none of the weaknesses).
    No worries, and interesting... Didn't know about the Ikeda. When did you get that - did you post a thread about it? From your description, I like the sound of that. Also which VDH have you got?

    The GL (I've heard one before, along the very similar 'SA') easily sounds as good, if not better, than any SPU I've had, and also the EMT, which as you know I've heard in my system and also love. Sonically, the GL is streets ahead of the stock 103, and indeed pretty much ANY 103. The only one that can touch it is the 103M [design-wise, quite a departure from any other 103], and of course the SA.

    To all intents and purposes, the GL is a £2k MC cartridge, if made by anyone other than Denon (without access to their huge resources and economies of scale), in the days when they threw all their financial clout and know-how into cartridge design.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Ok, I mentioned earlier that I was hopeful of imminently landing some vintage gems, and the deed has been done! These lovely things will be winging their way from Japan to chez moi...
    Now that is one good looking 103

    I'd like to get my ears around that SUT too, very interested to hear how it compares to the Lentek...
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    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    Turn Table. Garrard 401 2 Tier Slate Plinth, DIY Hadcock GH242, Nick G modded Lentek, Denon DL-103.
    Pre Amp. Croft Micro. Power Amps Quad 405 Mono Blocks.
    Speakers. TBC

    Home Cinema.
    UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    DAC/Pre Amp. Denon AVC X3700H.
    BDP/Streamer. Oppo 203 / Apple TV4K.
    Display. Optoma UHD51 / DIY False Black Window Screen.
    Power Amps. 2 x Nakamichi AVP1.
    Front Speakers. DIY Baby Celestion Ditton 66. Surround Speakers. Celestion Ditton 11. Subwoofer. BK Electronics P12 300SB PR.

    Old Gallery. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-of-the-70%92s

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    Cheers, mate. Hopefully it'll sound as good as it looks!

    Yeah, the AU-310 SUT is an interesting one... It's pitched as being a budget model, but the sound I remember hearing, from back in the day, certainly wasn't 'budget'. I suspect that the transformers it uses from that period, based on the fact that it was introduced in 1976, would've been pretty good, hence my interest

    Yes, it'll be interesting comparing it to the Lentek! Pop me a PM or give me a bell when you fancy coming round for a listen

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Cool Meanwhile, more on Houdini...



    Oh, and fitting instructions:



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes, lol! That's my next upgrade: an aluminium body. Going to use this chap in the States: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...s/182245529410

    I've no doubt it'll be as successful as what many have done with the DL-103...

    Glad you're considering a Houdini. I know it may seem like a lot of dosh 'for what it is', but what it is, *is* probably one of the most dramatic upgrades you will hear, facilitating the accurate reproduction of music on vinyl - I cannot stress this enough, and indeed don't say such things lightly.

    So you need to judge its cost against the level of sonic improvement it brings, and in turn the enjoyment derived from listening to your music collection. In that respect, TBH, I've heard complete arm-upgrades do far less!!

    Plus, I know that the full-production item will have the Funk logo at the front (which mine doesn't), and come with professionally designed, attractive and tactile packaging, plus a set-up jig, to aid with installation - all of which will make the purchase a bit more 'luxurious' and enhance the Houdini's overall pride of ownership

    However, 'fripperies' aside, what shouldn't be forgotten is that the Houdini fundamentally (and very ably), addresses a hitherto unknown problem that, undetected, has plagued vinyl replay for years, and in time I predict will become a ubiquitous accessory for all serious vinyl and turntable enthusiasts, keen to extract the maximum information from the grooves of their favourite records .

    Therefore, I can give this marvellous little device no higher praise. Quite honestly, it's one of the most exciting new discoveries to hit the enthusiast hi-fi turntable scene in years!

    Marco.
    Interesting what you say about complete tonearms doing far less than the effect the Houdini creates. Houdini is the new great leveller. All Houdini equipped tonearms now sound pretty much the same except for very very subtle nuances.

    Our latest tag line. The Houdini deletes the "tone" in tonearm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post

    No worries, and interesting... Didn't know about the Ikeda. When did you get that - did you post a thread about it? From your description, I like the sound of that. Also which VDH have you got?

    The GL (I've heard one before, along the very similar 'SA') easily sounds as good, if not better, than any SPU I've had, and also the EMT, which as you know I've heard in my system and also love. Sonically, the GL is streets ahead of the stock 103, and indeed pretty much ANY 103. The only one that can touch it is the 103M [design-wise, quite a departure from any other 103], and of course the SA.

    To all intents and purposes, the GL is a £2k MC cartridge, if made by anyone other than Denon (without access to their huge resources and economies of scale), in the days when they threw all their financial clout and know-how into cartridge design.

    Marco.
    Bought it from Tom (montesquieu): https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...+III+cartridge, and used in an Ikeda-modified Ortofon arm, the 309i (also bought from Tom).
    Barry

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    Marco,

    Sounds like your going to have a merry old time over the next few months. Good luck! I'll be certainly looking forward to what you have to report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matodono1 View Post
    Interesting what you say about complete tonearms doing far less than the effect the Houdini creates. Houdini is the new great leveller. All Houdini equipped tonearms now sound pretty much the same except for very very subtle nuances.

    Our latest tag line. The Houdini deletes the "tone" in tonearm.

    Lol, I like that one!

    The statement I made is true, quite simply because NO tonearm fixes what the Houdini does: a fundamental problem that hobbles, not only the performance of ANY arm or cartridge, but their ability to accurately retrieve the musical information from the record grooves!

    Yes, a well-designed tonearm is mandatory, and brings its own benefits, but none facilitate the (all important) decoupling of the cartridge from the headshell, like the Houdini, and where instead the cartridge is tightly coupled, resulting in the loss of so much MUSIC... And you simply won't appreciate that until you hear the effect for yourself.

    The removal of that bottleneck, therefore, is what makes the Houdini essential for anyone who truly wants to hear their record collection at its best!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Bought it from Tom (montesquieu): https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...+III+cartridge, and used in an Ikeda-modified Ortofon arm, the 309i (also bought from Tom).
    That's a gorgeous thing, Barry, and certainly ticks a lot of boxes for me! I've never heard one, but would dearly love to at some point. You got a bit of a bargain there, too!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    RE: Houdini

    This is really interesting guys.

    I have literally heard the benefits from fitting shims between the headshell and cartridge. One of my tonearms does not have VTA adjustment so it was more out of necessity than experimentation. When I fitted a shim (just for fun) on a TT and arm with VTA adjustment, it sounded better leveled with the shim in place than leveled without . . .

    These were just plastic ones, but I did consider that using different materials could make a difference. Sounds like I may have heard what improvements a 'poor mans' Houdini could bring. I don't doubt that the effect could be significant with large audible improvements, given the obvious research and engineering that has gone into making something like this.
    System 1: - Amp - Musical Paradise MP-701 mk2 - Neurochrome 686
    - Source: Audio Technica LP-5 - Custom 6V6 stage - Novafidelity X30 - Soekris 1421 (LPSU) - Custom TDA1541 C3G DAC -
    - Speakers: Martin Logan Prodigy's - Subs: - REL T3's -

    System 2 - Amp: Musical Paradise MP 303/Custom 300B SET - Custom 6SL7 Pre -
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