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Thread: A Kind of Blue and a bit Mike New - Changing my top plate and bearing

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    That looks fantastic...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamish View Post

    What else advantages are there of the newer plate?
    None that spring to mind.

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    Cheers shaun!

    Hugo, it actually looks straighter in real life to ... I'm happy to stick with this one I think!
    Il perhaps buy one if one comes up second hand at some point
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    I think it looks fabulous Hamish ' well done and what a superb record player you have there now ! i would like to know more about what you think of the OC9 , once its run in
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    I think it looks great. Id love to do a piano black on my deck, like the mk5

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    I think it looks fabulous Hamish ' well done and what a superb record player you have there now ! i would like to know more about what you think of the OC9 , once its run in
    this ones a oc9 iii ... i previously had the oc9 that broke... this was an insurance replacemnt... i dont have much experience of carts to comment, but i think it sounds lovely

    im most pleased with it all, cant see me doing anything to it for a while now i have to say..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Can I ask about the whole SL1210 thing. I get the idea which is to buy a stock deck then upgrade it bit by bit as and when funds allow up to the point at which only the motor is left from the original.

    My questions being - is the same motor used in any other (non-technics) TT?
    If not, why? And why does someone not buy a supply of these motors and build a whole new deck from scratch starting with the motor? Apologies if I am missing something obvious.
    I will answer you as others on here have "selective reading" abilities.

    Some earlier Technics tables have the same or similar motor and platter.

    You can also get an abused table with a good motor and do the same as they do.

    I saw someone taking just a motor from one and building out of layers of plywood a whole new base.

    You could just start with a motor and and speed controller and build a whole new deck like you said.

    I had a SL1200 Mk2 and decided not to spend a fortune upgrading it and bought a very nice and slightly used table for half price (500 pound) and a quarter of what it would have cost me on upgrades for the Technics alone.

    It would be interesting if someone came up with a better motor, then it wouldn't be a Technics at all.
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    Hi Hamish,

    Blue is nice but you could have gone for this (attached)! Bling!!

    Really , though, it looks quite good and colourful TT's always look more interesting. I think that people can be a little boring with there hifi me included. I used to have a bright red Pro-ject deck which looked much more interesting than what I have now.
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    I will answer you as others on here have "selective reading" abilities.
    {Cough}... What's that supposed to mean, Phillip?

    Hi Hamish,

    What else advantages are there of the newer plate?
    I've actually analysed the effect of this separately when I had the plate you're using swapped for one of the ones Dave has specially made in Germany, and trust me it makes a difference, sonically.

    I think the custom-made plates provide a more rigid fixing of the arm-base to the chassis, and this reduces resonance (and also I've found) acoustic feedback, the positive effects of which can easily be heard when playing music.

    It's not a massive improvement, but certainly easily noticeable in a revealing system, and well worth having. I'm sure you could get a new plate fitted sometime later on - at the moment I would just enjoy what you have, which you seem to be doing rather well

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    Hamish,

    Nice job, I suspect that the pictures don't do it justice. I'd like a top like that in metallic black!

    BTW, What's the PSU that you are using, and was it easy to fit the bearing ?

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