Timestep vs Mike New - opinions?

[Marco]

now we are getting somewhere!
A...

Hi Anthony,

See my reply to Shaun on the other thread - 'Turntables: Setting Your Bias'. This should explain things very clearly

Marco.

P.S The filter is bloody fantastic, mate - I am absolutely delighted with it!

Cheers

[Rare Bird]

I have to say this cos this is what i see. This 1210 thing is turning into what the LP12' did.

[anthonyTD]

Hi Anthony,

See my reply to Shaun on the other thread - 'Turntables: Setting Your Bias'. This should explain things very clearly

Marco.

P.S The filter is bloody fantastic, mate - I am absolutely delighted with it!

Cheers

hi marco,
i have read the other thread and can see both points.
my reasons for asking the original questions in this thread was not as some may see as to question this turntables true ability and integrity but out of interest as to other peoples take on the merits of owning a piece of kit that seemingly needs so many mods to make it perform properly that it begs the question,,,why....
A...
PS, glad to hear the filter is doing what it was designed to do in your system!

[Marco]

Yup, mate, I totally get what you're saying....

Basically, just see it as a top-notch motor mechanism, not as a 'ready to go' high-end turntable. When I bought my SL-1210, I never bought it as a completed solution; it was bought merely as the basis for a long-term project to make into something rather special to play my records on

Marco.

[thankyoumisterman]

While I'm awaiting delivery of a modified Technics, and don't have a direct experience with one as such, the thing that attracted me to the Technics is that it represents a way to get a solid performer for relatively little money. I've heard the 'table stock, and it sounded quite "acceptable" - not a world beater by any means. People whose opinion I respect indicated that with appropriate modification, the Technics was an excellent table, with mods that can be added as desired, with less overall cost for many new grinders.

One friend of mine has an LP12, with many and costly upgrades; another has a VPI Scoutmaster, to which he has added several of VPI's upgrades (not as costly as Linn's); the cost to fully trick out a new Technics 1200 or 1210 is generally less than either of those fine tables prior to those upgrades. The Linn, while I appreciate its little colorations, finding them pleasing to the ear generally, is rather a pain to maintain; the VPI much less so, but still requiring a bit of fiddling.

Another thing to consider is that there are plenty of people like me who are either a) coming back to vinyl, or b) are getting into vinyl for the first time. Those people who never listened to LPs have digital stability and ease of use as their benchmarks for listening. A direct-drive turntable offers relative ease of use, with sounds arising from a stable sonic platform. The Tech doesn't require huge amounts of time and energy to perform well; if you're interested in using a Concorde-style cart, another potential hassle is removed from the equation.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

I think I can answer anthony's question better than anyone else so far... Why take on a bit of kit that need to be modded to within an inch of it life to sound at it's best??
My answer - Because it's fun!
And to reiterate what I was saying in the other thread about dave and his aparent enjoyment of this project ... I think if pushed that might well be not far from his answer too! Dave has the desire to make lots of bits for this turn table to the point of it being barely even recognisable, he along with mike new also have the technical know how ... So why the hell not I say!

[chris@panteg]

I have to say this cos this is what i see. This 1210 thing is turning into what the LP12' did.

There is a grain of truth in what your saying Andre ' but .

There is an orderly queue of folks wanting to put the LP12 down generally by those that don't own or use one , and its the same with the modded SL1200 .

[twelvebears]

Why take on a bit of kit that need to be modded to within an inch of it life to sound at it's best??
My answer - Because it's fun!

Yeah Baby! We're like the Max Power world of audio!

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Yeah Baby! We're like the Max Power world of audio!

INNIT MAN, YEAH!!

[sq225917]

Has anyone actually done before and after comparisons measuring the various speed control modification options from all the different manufacturers?

All we need to see is an FM demodulation of a test tone recording. It's nice reading all the waffle and cod psychology in the marketing spiel but speed stability is the easiest thing to measure on a deck, why don't any of them provide the comparison before and after data?