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    Default What file format for digial ripping ?

    So as I am about to embark on ripping 3000 cd's I am faced with that decision that many of you have already dealt with - what format to choose.
    AIFF and Flac seem to be the 2 most chosen - I am planning to get a Sonos system to play it through, and need album art to show, and have limited internet access, meaning the easier it is the better. I also have a lot of cover-mounted magazine cd's (The Word, Uncut etc) that I would like track detail and cover art if possible. Storage space is not a big issue, as I plan to buy a 4 bay NAS with 2x1.5tb drives to start with, and then add another 2 when I can afford them..
    If any of this makes sense to anyone, then please put me straight !

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    Sonos have some network problems with AIFF (or any uncompressed format), mainly due to it's ad-hoc wireless connections. Keep it with FLAC, unless you use iTunes for ripping : in that case, use ALAC.
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    Wot Dimitri said.

    If you're using a PC Steve you could use EAC for ripping (free) or dbPoweramp (free trial but ultimately need to buy).
    Either way, it's possible to add your own tags if there are none in the comparison databases.

    Chris

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    I have a rather tasty tutorial for setting up dbpoweramp to library your files in a very intuitive way if you go down that road...
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    Wouldn't mind seeing that Hamish, just in case I missed something.
    Your lass still watching the idiot lantern ?

    Chris

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    Yes mate... I do like the film though so all good!
    Il dig it out now... it's only short, I posted it on here before but I can't find it now... Gimmi a sec!
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    it was writen for use wih linn ds so there is referance to it in there but if you read it it does apply to any system

    Hello



    Installation Of dBpoweramp:



    Download the CD Ripper program from www.dbpoweramp.com and install the program. Then on their website, download and install the FLAC codec. Also, download and install the DSP Effects too.



    Do not rip a CD until you have followed the setup below.



    Run the CD Ripper application and click on the Options button. A dialogue box will appear. Under “Ripping Method” select the Secure button. Under “AccurateRip” ensure tick box is ticked next to “Query Ripping Results with AccurateRip”

    Under “CD ROM” tick the tick box for “Prevent auto-run on all CD drives” then click the OK button.



    At the bottom left of the window is a box named “Rip To” click the dropdown and select Flac.



    To the right of this section will be 3 vertical tabs, click on the “Encoder” tab which will show [Flac Encoder Settings]



    Click the drop down and select Compression Level 8 (Best)



    Then click on the DSP tab



    Click on the “Add DSP / Action” button move the mouse pointer over “Add DSP Effect” and select ID Tag Processing



    A dialogue box will appear. Click on the “Deletions” tab. Click on “Single Tag” button, a line will appear:



    Single Tag [type or select tag element] [Remove]



    Move the mouse pointer over the [type or select tag element] and click, then a drop down will appear, click on this and select “Title” then click on the OK button.



    On the bottom left, of the dBpoweramp CD ripper window, is a box named “Path”, click the SET button and select where you want dbpoweramp to save your music to. i.e. the music folder on your PC or NAS drive but make a Folder called “CDs” so the path looks similar to:



    Music Folder\CDs



    Below this box is one named “Naming”, click on the SET button and a dialogue box will appear.



    At the top is a box named “Naming”. Click on the box and it will highlight the text, then press the Delete key on your keyboard, then copy and paste the code below into the now clear box and press OK button



    [IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album]\[IFMULTI]\Disc[disc][]\[track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI]\Disc[disc][]\[track] - [title][]



    On the bottom left, of the dBpoweramp CD ripper window, is a box named “Profile”, click the drop down arrow and select [Create Profile] then type a name, for the Profile, i.e. Contemporary or Modern ensure “Copy Settings From Profile: Default” is ticked then click Create button.



    The Profile enables you to set different methods of ripping for different types of CDs. The above Profile, Contemporary, structures your music in a specific way. When you insert a CD, say Dire Straits Brothers In Arms, a folder will automatically be created called “Dire Straits” unless it already exits, in which case it will open the folder. Then within the “Dire Straits” folder it will create a folder called “Brothers In Arms” and then it will copy the tracks and cover art into that folder. This enables the LinnGUI software to display all your music as your CDs are, Artist then Album title, i.e.



    Artist Folder\Album Title\Tracks & Cover Art



    If it’s a compilation CD, the Compilation tick box must be ticked and the following will be created:



    Various Artist\Album Title\Tracks & Cover Art



    If the CD is a multi disc CD then the following will be created:



    Artist Folder\Album Title\Disc ?\Tracks & Cover Art





    With Classical CDs you may want this to be different. I have my Classical CDs sorted out as follows:



    Composer\Conductor\Musical Piece\Tracks & Cover Art



    To Achieve this, click the drop down arrow, on the Profile Box, and select [Create Profile] then type “Classical” for the Profile name ensure “Copy Settings From Profile: Contemporary” is ticked then click Create button.



    Then on the “Path” box click Set button and Make a folder called “Classical” in your music folder then click OK button, so that it looks similar to:



    Music Folder\Classical



    Then in “Naming” box click Set button and a dialogue box will appear. At the top click in the “Naming” box to highlight the code in the box and press the Delete key. The box should now be empty. Now copy and paste the following code into the empty box then click OK button.



    [IFCOMP]various\[IFVALUE]conductor,[conductor],Various[]\[album]\[IFMULTI]\Disc[disc][]\[track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]composer,[composer],[album artist][]\[IFVALUE]conductor,[conductor],Various[]\[album]\[IFMULTI]\Disc[disc][]\[track] - [title][]



    You may wish your Classical CDs saved in a different way. Let me know how and I will send you the code to do it.



    You have now setup the software ready to rip. First select the correct Profile, Contemporary or Classical, then load a manufactured CD. Not a CDR or a compilation CD, so that AccurateRip can correctly set itself for your Drive. Make sure the CD loaded is identified. i.e. the Artist, Album, Year, Track data and Cover art etc… is correct. If not try another CD or enter the information manually. Then click the Rip button.



    The very first CD you rip is used by AccurateRip to identify the correct settings for your drive. All other CDs will be ripped normally.



    When ripped, a dialogue box will appear to confirm the Accurate Rip setting. If all is well click the OK button. If an error is displayed, follow the instructions, you may need to try a different CD or a different Drive. If you think it is the drive, try installing the software on a different PC.



    You are now ready to use dBpoweramp to rip you CD collection. Load a CD wait for the information to appear then check it is all correct including the Track information.

    If the Cover Art is not displayed, try looking on Amazon website for the CD and if the cover art is there, copy and paste the Image to your PC and then click the + button above the Cover Art Box and select “Load (From File)”. If you cannot find the image on the internet, then you can always Scan the CD Cover in instead.

    If the CD is a compilation, make sure the tick is selected on the Compilation setting.

    If the CD is a multi-disc CD, then make sure the “Disc” box contains the correct Disc info for the CD i.e. 1/5 (disc 1 of 5) or 3/4 (disc 3 of 4).

    When all info is correct, click the “Rip” button.



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    Muchos gracias, amigo

    Chris

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    i fully recomend dbpoweramp and the above tutorial, its served me very well... as i understand it dbpower amp also rip hdcd ()
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    Nice guide, Hamish.
    Don't forget to add ReplayGain (not ReplayGain (apply)) and HDCD DSPs, btw.
    Dimitri.

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